The student protests that have swept through Claremont McKenna College (CMC) over the past few days—and the ensuing fallout—have made us disappointed in many of those involved.

First, former Dean Mary Spellman. We are sorry that your career had to end this way, as the email in contention was a clear case of good intentions being overlooked because of poor phrasing. However, we are disappointed in you as well. We are disappointed that you allowed a group of angry students to bully you into resignation. We are disappointed that you taught Claremont students that reacting with emotion and anger will force the administration to act. We are disappointed that when two students chose to go on a hunger strike until you resigned, you didn’t simply say, “so what?” If they want to starve themselves, that’s fine—you don’t owe them your job. We are disappointed that you and President Chodosh put up with students yelling and swearing at you for an hour. You could have made this a productive dialogue, but instead you humored the students and allowed them to get caught up in the furor.

Above all, we are disappointed that you and President Chodosh weren’t brave enough to come to the defense of a student who was told she was “derailing” because her opinions regarding racism didn’t align with those of the mob around her. Nor were you brave enough to point out that these protesters were perfectly happy to use this student to further their own agenda, but turned on her as soon as they realized she wasn’t supporting their narrative. These protesters were asking you to protect your students, but you didn’t even defend the one who needed to be protected right in front of you.

Second, President Chodosh. We were disappointed to see you idly stand by and watch students berate, curse at, and attack Dean Spellman for being a “racist.” For someone who preaches about “leadership” and “personal and social responsibility,” your actions are particularly disappointing. You let your colleague, someone who has been helping your administration for the past three years and the college for six years, be publicly mocked and humiliated. Why? Because you were afraid. You were afraid that students would also mock and humiliate you if you defended Dean Spellman, so you let her be thrown under the bus. You were so afraid that it only took you five minutes to flip-flop on their demand for a temporary “safe space” on campus. Your fear-driven action (or lack thereof) only further reinforced the fear among the student body to speak out against this movement. We needed your leadership more than ever this week, and you failed us miserably.

Third, ASCMC President Will Su. As the representative of CMC’s entire student body, we are disappointed in you for the manner in which you called for the resignation of junior class president Kris Brackmann and for so quickly caving in to the demands of a few students without consulting the student body as a whole. If you truly cared about representing all of CMC’s interests, you would have at the very least solicited opinions from outside of the movement and your Executive Board. You have shut down any room for debate among the student body with your full endorsement of this movement and its demands, failing to give concerned students an opportunity to speak. We are disappointed that you did not allow for any time for reflection before making your quick executive decisions to announce a student-wide endorsement of this movement and to grant these students a temporary “safe space” in the ASCMC offices.

To our fellow Claremont students, we are disappointed in you as well. We are ashamed of you for trying to end someone’s career over a poorly worded email. This is not a political statement—this is a person’s livelihood that you so carelessly sought to destroy. We are disappointed that you chose to scream and swear at your administrators. That is not how adults solve problems, and your behavior reflects poorly on all of us here in Claremont. This is not who we are and this is not how we conduct ourselves, but this is the image of us that has now reached the national stage.

We are disappointed in your demands. If you want to take a class in “ethnic, racial, and sexuality theory,” feel free to take one, but don’t force such an ideologically driven course on all CMC students. If the dearth of such courses at CMC bothers you, maybe you should have chosen a different school. If students chose to attend Caltech and then complained about the lack of literature classes, that’s on them. And though it wouldn’t hurt to have a more diverse faculty, the demand that CMC increase the number of minority faculty members either rests on the assumption that CMC has a history of discriminating against qualified professors of color, or, more realistically, it advocates for the hiring of less qualified faculty based simply on the fact that they belong to marginalized groups. A hiring practice of this sort would not benefit any CMC students, yourselves included.

We are disappointed in the fact that your movement has successfully managed to convince its members that anyone who dissents does so not for intelligent reasons, but due to moral failure or maliciousness. We are disappointed that you’ve used phrases like “silence is violence” to not only demonize those who oppose you, but all who are not actively supporting you. We are most disappointed, however, in the rhetoric surrounding “safe spaces.” College is the last place that should be a safe space. We come here to learn about views that differ from our own, and if we aren’t made to feel uncomfortable by these ideas, then perhaps we aren’t venturing far enough outside of our comfort zone. We would be doing ourselves a disservice to ignore viewpoints solely on the grounds that they may make us uncomfortable, and we would not be preparing ourselves to cope well with adversity in the future. Dealing with ideas that make us uncomfortable is an important part of growing as students and as people, and your ideas will inhibit opportunities for that growth.

We are adults, and we need to be mature enough to take ownership of and responsibility for our feelings, rather than demanding that those around us cater to our individual needs. The hypocrisy of advocating for “safe spaces” while creating an incredibly unsafe space for President Chodosh, former Dean Spellman, the student who was “derailing,” and the news media representatives who were verbally abused unfortunately seemed to soar over many of your heads.

Lastly, we are disappointed in students like ourselves, who were scared into silence. We are not racist for having different opinions. We are not immoral because we don’t buy the flawed rhetoric of a spiteful movement. We are not evil because we don’t want this movement to tear across our campuses completely unchecked.

We are no longer afraid to be voices of dissent.


Hannah Oh, Editor-in-Chief

Steven Glick, Publisher

Taylor Schmitt, Managing Editor


Image: CMC Forum

Categories: Editorial
  • I agree

    I really really want to share this article. Just afraid my classmates will burn me alive.

    • I agree too

      I agree. Thanks for writing this.

      (Probably the only good thing to come out of the Claremont Independent.)

    • A Supporter

      Do it!! Oh I wish I was there to bolster you in support!!

    • Jimpithecus

      And to those who swore at the administrators and demanded their resignation, good luck getting jobs out in the real world where most employers don’t give a damn about how you feel. I know I, for one, wouldn’t hire you.

      • TJP

        There is no ‘real world’ for these kids, and that’s the sad truth.

        Their lives will consist of academia, activist nonprofits, the blogosphere, and government bureaucracy. We’ve created a system in which a certain class of students can live a comfortable life without ever encountering what anyone outside of their bubble would consider the ‘real world’.

        It’s a malignant feedback loop which insures their positions become hardened, protected, and insulated from all dissent; more so with each cycle. And so every year the demands get more outlandish, the shrieks more hysterical, and the distance between reality and their own version of it ever wider.

        They bought themselves a life of extreme privilege by convincing themselves of how oppressed they are.

        • geokstr

          Well said, TJ, and bravo to the brave people who wrote this editorial. Your lives will now be made into a living hell by these childish students, whose slightly bent feelings will make the delicate snowflakes melt…with rage. Be prepared.

          The same liberal, cowardly faculty and administration put up a little more fight back in ’60s and ‘, but that was before they had forced out all the conservatives and moderates who had a spine. Eventually they caved, though, and over time turned the universities into Marxist re-education camps, complete with whole departments devoted to “grievances” and victimology, staffed by former SDS, Weather Underground, Black Liberation Front, and Communist Party activists. Even the hard sciences have been politicized.

          The predictable results – the trashing of all traditions, norms and values that made us a civil society and the destruction of the glue that held us together – the nuclear family. Obama has merely finished the job with his “fundamental transformation.”

          And the movements this time are openly backed by the far left Democrat Party, the media and Hollywood, and will not stop until they get their Marxist revolution or get crushed. This time it will not end peacefully.

          • F. B. Black

            And the brain-dead Republicans are so pleasant, and open to examining issues objectively and civilly? Give me a break! A pox on all the infantile children!

          • Belinda

            Actually, I don’t think the editorial writers will suffer for their opinions. They’ve shown some spine in the face of bullies. And that’s exactly what people need to do.

            When people roll over in the face of unreasonable demands, it emboldens the abuser to escalate the assaults.

            That young woman who the crowd dismissed and tried to silence was telling her story and they didn’t want to hear it. But the “demand” everyone listen to them.

            Well, I’m listening, but only to record who they are so they never work in my company (of 170,000 employees).

            They are not the kind of people who can productive contributors. Instead, they are more likely to poison teams, and look to sue because of a difference of opinion which they would call racism.

          • urbananchorite

            The conflating and forcing together of so many issues completely separate in time, scope and space, especially blowing them up into national politics is EXACTLY how the CMC students got themselves there. SOOO ironic. Heal thyself.

          • scripps16

            By “civil society,” are you referring to a time when non-white people couldn’t vote and were banned from universities and most professional occupations? When your “nuclear family” is built on women being deliberately shut out of the labor force? That’s not a civil society. That’s an oppressive society.

          • Martin Knight


            No he was not.

          • ricarprs

            I did not see it or read it that way, but obviously you did.
            When your only tool is a hammer, the entire world looks like nail.

          • Chris in NC

            Scripps16, you are an idiot. Your world must be very bleak indeed.

          • Patrick Shields

            As a business owner, I’d hire the writers of this student editorial. As a business owner, I wouldn’t even think about hiring the thin skin, emotionally under developed, weak, cowardly students who feel screaming and swearing is a strength when it’s the best weapon of two year olds.

          • Jack Strawb

            The “far left Democratic party”?? In which country do you live? Only in the US would today’s Democratic party be considered other than center-right. It’s certainly right wing with regard to foreign policy, it proposes no plan to increase union membership above current, historic lows. The party overall was sluggish on gay marriage. Etc.

        • Rob S

          TJP, from an outsider on the opposite coast, you win the internet.

          • Ron T

            I second that.

          • Rich

            @scrips you are a fantacist. That should be your problem only but now you want others to suffer too. Which is why you oppressed the minority student at the end of the video.

            Terrific article by intelligent young people. Fight on! Fight harder! The world is watching.

        • Joel

          Great comment for an exceptional piece.

        • Mary Ann Ludwig

          These are the people who will be politically active once they leave the “hallowed halls of academe”. The people who will be running the government. Think about it.

          • Gershon Wolf

            True enough. Unfortunately, they are already running the government: Barack and Michelle. Heaven help us if Hilary is to follow. Please work to defeat her: “ABC” / Anyone but Clinton (or Sanders) should be the rallying cry for all people who still possess even a semblance of political spine!s

          • BC

            They’ll be IN the government, not running it. That will be those across the street who care about their education and respect their educators.

        • Mike

          Bravo! Spot on, you GET it.

        • scripps16

          It’s “outlandish” to want to have administrators who treat them with respect? To have professors who don’t say racist things in class? “These kids,” have you put it, have come from the real world. Many if not all of them have experienced racism in the real world. Is it so wrong to demand that their school be as safe a space for them as it is for white students?

          • Martin Knight

            These kids are screaming and shouting over “microaggressions”, “trigger warnings”, “cissexism” and other pseudo-academic nonsense that has no bearing on the real world.

            They’re demanding that their fellow students be forced to take indoctrination classes in fake disciplines and racial quotas in hiring faculty. They just gleefully abused and attacked a Dean till she quit.

            So, no. I don’t think any of them have experienced racism in any way close to the level you’re hallucinating. Especially not in class. These are simply evil children in an evil mob.

            PS: Call me a racist. I bet I have more melanin in my skin than you.

          • JWAE

            It’s outlandish that your childish drivel was not proofread by an adult before posted

          • JWAE

            NOVEMBER 14, 2015 AT 5:07 AM
            It’s outlandish that your childish drivel was not proofread by an adult before posted

          • Richard Belzer

            Setting aside the tendentious form of your questions, the answer is “yes.”

          • MT

            How did she disrespect someone? In this day and age I can’t see a person such as a professor saying racist comments to students when most races are present in such classes. However what I do see is some idiot taking something out of context and turning it into a racist statement!

          • Chantel

            Those children were throwing a tantrum. They were not being adults. You are taking the word of a bunch of spoiled little brats who are demanding they get what they want and be damned to those who don’t agree. Unless you attended that school and have insider knowledge of the racism that is or is not taking place then you shouldn’t spew your rehetoric.

          • mother of a white boy

            You think college is “safe” for white kids? My god, go meet some. I agree with the astute young writers of this opinion piece: college is a place to take risks, be challenged, and rise to the challenge. College is hard, college is a risk, and every class offers opportunities to navigate those challenges. For all students.

          • Benjy

            scripps16, it’s not outlandish at all to want administrators to treat them with respect, or to demand that their school be as safe a space for them as it is for white students.

            It is, however outlandish to demand that an administrator be fired for telling a Latina student she would work to serve those who “don’t fit our CMC mold”. I can see how that comment can be perceived as racist, but I can also see how it can be perceived as not racist. The situation is ambiguous, and there should at least be a measured social conversation on the topic before someone loses their job and possibly their career.

            I think many of the demands students of color at CMC are making are very reasonable, but demanding that Spellman resign is not reasonable. Racial inequality will be solved by getting people on your side, not by silencing people, and this has actually turned a lot of people against your movement. By acting without taking the time to understand the situation, you’re doing more harm than good.

          • Stan Rothwell

            scripps16, the type of games you are playing are EXACTLY the thing that Alan Dershowitz and other pundits are taking about when they criticize “cry-bullies” and extreme political correctness. You clearly can’t win any type of argument or debate by sticking to facts and logic, or openly considering other points of view. Anyone and everyone has to be pigeonholed as a racist, a bigot, uneducated, or otherwise smeared by you. Accusing others of wanting to persecute people of color or lock women out of the work force, NOT because you have any PROOF of such, but because you simply want to silence dissenting points of view, is certainly not the hallmark of a tolerant or mature adult, much less that of a college student who (we would hope) should be engaged in and supportive open academic inquiry. In fact, it is the sign of a bigot, and in case you were not aware of it, NO group of people – liberal or conservative, black or white, young or old, gay or straight, rich or poor – has a monopoly on bigotry. Do yourself and the rest of the student body a favor. LISTEN to other points of view, and give them some adult consideration, before making blanket statements about what others really think…

          • Sam

            It is wrong to harass other students. It is wrong to try and stop somebody else from having free speech whilst screening in their faces. It is wrong to try and force others via threats and intimidation to adere exactly to your veiws and opinions.
            These people are trying to take away other people’s basic rights as well as the space to study that the students have paid for.

            If you think the tactics employed by these supporter of totalitarian bullies is acceptable then what you are wanting is a totalitarian dictatorship that aligns perfectly with your view of the world.

          • Vendetta

            Yes, it is wrong of them to do so in this childish, petulant, overbearing, disgraceful, and embarrassing manner.

          • dana daddee

            the epitome of a useful idiot.

            Useful idiot
            Term invented in Soviet Russia to describe people who blindly supported the likes of Lenin and Stalin while they committed atrocity after atrocity.

            Today, it refers to brainwashed liberals and leftists the world over (usually college students that aren’t necessarily idiots, but just misinformed, naive, and ignorant of facts due to being indoctrinated with liberal/socialist propaganda through their public education) who believe that George W. Bush has committed more crimes against humanity than leftist darlings like Saddam Hussain, Yasser Arafat, and Osama Bin Laden, and still defend Communism, the cause of over 100 million deaths to this day.

            See also, idiotarian
            Hundreds of useful idiots gathered at their college campus to burn American flags, pass out Communist pamphlets that apologize for Stalin and Mao, and to pledge support to their hero, Saddam Hussain.

            Useful idiots need to be shown the facts, mainly that the United States and Israel are the greatest defenders of freedom and justice in the world. Until then, rational people can have fun laughing at their ignorance.

          • Observant

            Let me respond to your complaints please

            It’s “outlandish” to want to have administrators who treat them with respect? RESPECT MUST BE EARNED, IT ISN’T CONFERRED BECAUSE YOU ARE WHITE, BLACK, CHRISTIAN, MUSLIM, ETC.
            That said, I haven’t seen anything to respect except for the news article.

            To have professors who don’t say racist things in class?
            I am bursting with curiosity, I guess your mother and father didn’t tell you that “Sticks and Stone can break your bones, but words can never hurt you.

            “These kids,” have you put it, have come from the real world. Many if not all of them have experienced racism in the real world. Is it so wrong to demand that their school be as safe a space for them as it is for white students?
            As I stated, Respect is earned, you don’t get to wear it on your sleeve or head just because you think yourself special. Frankly, you aren’t special, you put your pants on 1 leg at a time like the rest of we flawed human beings. Names can’t break bones, so what are you complaining about? Finally, you are children, no matter what some have told you, you are learning to be adults, you haven’t ever been in the real world where you are responsible to feed, and house yourselves, and your families. The real world starts when you leave College and begin to be a useful, law abiding citizen. Today, from the reports coming in from around the country, you have a ways to go on becoming either.


          • Tony

            This “safe space” they want is nothing more then segregation. If white students wanted the same “safe space” you’d probably be on here screaming that’s racist right along with the “black lives matter” actors.

          • Tony


            Why are the only students that should have this “safe space” are the ones involved in this “black lives matter” “movement”? Those kids are nothing more then drama setters, they don’t care what anyone has to say z unless it involves their demands for “equality” it’s not equality or justice they’re after, the only thing they want is to preach their hate for their fellow white students.. This was made clear when they silenced the young asian women for merely stating the fact that it’s mainly the black students acting in a racist manner.

          • Riccardo Boehm

            I never felt completely safe in college. I had to deal with a lot of intellectual and emotional challenges and graduated as a better educated person. I never dreamt I was helpless and owed protection by the college administration, though it was nice to have good friends. And I have had to continue facing challenges and overcome them. That is life. Harvard AB 1962

          • Chris in NC

            Scripps16, those kids should have been expelled for creating an unsafe environment of threats and intimidation.

          • GC

            Grow up kid, you have a whole lot to learn, if you ever do and you’ll probably end up on welfare if it still exists anyway. Does mommy still wipe your bum too?

          • Scott

            If I was going to this college, i would be angry that so much time, attention and money was being wasted on “social issues”. I went to college to receive an education specific to my desired career of engineering so that i could legally and knowledgably practice in that field, and yes, to make money to support myself and a family. I did not go to support or further a social agenda. You dont need to be in college to do that.
            I did not need the required liberal arts classes in order to develop a world view. You can do that without college as well, just by reading, following current events, and engaging in conversations with people with opposing viewpoints. You dont need to cling to the teat of academia to be fed a belief system.
            ot seems to me that these students are attending college for the wrong reasons. Why waste all that tuition money when you can be even more politically and socially active without the burden of college.
            If i was the parent of these students, and if i were paying their tuition, i would quit wasting my money.

          • Stan Rothwell

            “It’s “outlandish” to want to have administrators who treat them with respect? ”

            The screaming lefties show NO interest in listening to or respecting the legitimate opinions of others, so why do they think they are entitled to “respect” when they don’t see it necessary to reciprocate?

        • Mark Rodriguez

          Black lives matter No shit! All lives matter. If you can’t appreciate that then you are a bigot. As soon as you start demanding something just because of the color of your skin then you are the racist.

          I appreciate the students at Clairmont who wrote this article. You have restored some of my faith in your generation. I do believe you are in the majority. But you are letting a few spineless crybabies define your generation. While they are looking for their ” safe space” so their feeling don’t get hurt, our basic liberties are being stolen. I hope you know your being played by the progressive left who don’t give a rats ass about you or blacks or women or the union or any other group that they seduce.

          So please open your eyes. Follow the money . Use some commen sense. Rebuke these punks . Challenge them in open debate . Use facts and logic. Their hypothetical bull shit won’t hold water to close scrutiny .

          The worst thing about this is that these pussies pulled this on Veterans Day . We should be honoring those that put their lives in real danger so these self absorb parasites coould suck on their mothers tit until they were 14.

          • Jeff Zaun

            One thing that irks me with your comment and others bemoaning young people today. And a tie in to vet’s day.

            If you read Cicero, other Romans, British or 19th Century Americans, they’re always complaining that the next generation is wimpy, corrupted, spoiled, etc.

            I have an uncle who climbed Point du Hoc on D-day. I earned a Distinguished Flying Cross and Purple Heart in the first Gulf War. I, and my uncle who died a couple of years ago, should bow in respect to the men and women who’ve served in Iraq and Afghanistan from 2001 to now. They are an order of magnitude tougher and more professional than those who served before them. They are more effective and tougher than Joshua Chamberlain, Bud Lommel or Lance Sijan. They fought against greater numbers in a more hostile environment without the support (of their mission) from the folks back home.

            Don’t despair. The kids are alright.

          • Mr. Rodriguez,

            Please remember the unspoken final word: “Black Lives Matter, too”

            And that the concept has been deployed in response to the well-documented disproportionality in police ending/maiming of Black lives.

            I’m pretty appalled by the recent examples of identity politics run amok on college campuses, and I’m shocked by the rhetoric and actions of such naive and myopic students, but I doubt any threat to your “basic liberties” is coming from those “crybabies,” “punks,” or “pussies.”

            And never once has a veteran put his or her life in danger for me. They put their lives in danger for a paycheck, or, more abstractly, for the war profiteers who decide when and how the U.S. military is deployed.

          • Sean B.

            @ A. Rose
            In all honesty, all I ever wanted to do was to go in the US Marine Corps, and in 2010 I did. I signed up and went and earned the title and became a Mortarman. I was still a teenager when I deployed to Afghanistan in 2011. I didn’t want to do it for the money, because you are an idiot if you sign up to get rich, because I’ll tell you from experience you won’t. I didn’t do it for the guts and glory. I did it because I genuinely LOVE my country and the people who live in it, even ones like yourself who make unsound blanket statements about veterans. I served for them. My family. Purely out of patriotism for my country I kid you not. So, I’m pretty appalled to your ignorance. You refuse to look at both sides of the battle, and because of that, you are forever lost. You will never have anything useful to interject because you already have your mind made up regardless. Ole Teddy Roosevelt warned us about “hyphenated” Americans, that it would ruin our country. I firmly believe we are starting to see just the beginning. I digress, I did serve and put my ass on the line for you A. Rose. I don’t care if you accept that or not. I did it for everyone just like my brothers did to my left and right. ALL of us from different races, religions, and creeds. So at least TRY not to be a biased bigot. Open your eyes just a WEE bit to see past your bias. We need to openly look closer as a group of peers and equals to fix it. Not divided groups trying to get one up over the other.

          • Chris in NC

            A. Rose: Wrong. That is not what BLM says. If you try to add other lives into the equation other than black lives you are threatened and bullied.

            Blacks are more often the target of police because they cause more than their fair share of the crimes that require police.

            Finally, you may not think that a vet ever laid his or her life down for you, but the fact that your idiocy can be put in print without someone hauling you away is proof of such.

        • MarkinLA

          Well at some point there won’t be enough cream created by the productive sector of society for these people to skim off. Then the real fun will begin when these people are forced to swim in the real world.

          • Tony

            @ Sean B- I would like to personally thank you on behalf of my family and friend’s for putting your life on the line to protect our way of life… A. Rose is very full of themself if they honestly think the brave men and women of our united states military do it only for the paycheck. I’m sure there are some that do but i believe the majority do it for their families and their country… So thank you from the bottom of my heart.

        • CB


          I’m glad that the real world to you consists of making as much money as you can, regardless of who directly or indirectly gets stepped on in the process (how do we think that poverty can be irradicated when the goal of our society is to get rich?). Maybe, the real world, for the protestors, involves fighting for the rights that are denied. I’m not talking about legal rights. Obviously everyone has the same legal rights, in theory.

          But think about a time where you felt like the minority (if that’s ever happened – I too am a white male and never feel as if I am a minority, even when I am). Now imagine that every second of your life. Feel good? And the thing is, we can’t identify with that because it isn’t true for us.

          How about this: They aren’t fighting only for change on the campus. Sure, that is directly what is happening. But they are also fighting a system of oppression that you just completely wrote off, basically saying that their experiences are invalid (think about that for a second. It is utter nonsense to say that someone’s experiences are invalid). They are indirectly fighting for the rights of their people. The poverty statistics based on race in this country are outrageous. The prison statistics are unbelievable (especially for drug crimes, in which usage is actually pretty even between races – The New Jim Crow may prove an interesting read for you – I know it helped open my eyes to a lot of the outcries going on). I personally think it is beautiful that they are taking such a big risk with their futures, with their money, to fight for something that is bigger than them as individuals. I wonder what it would look like if we were all willing to make that sacrifice.

          • JWAE

            It’s impossible to characterize your statement above as anything more than childish. Your assumptions about other people is really out of bounds. “How do we think we can eradicate poverty when the goal of our society is to get rich”?
            Really? It’s at college where people your age should be learning so you can get a job and SUPPORT yourself. As for poverty, you assume that somehow someone wanting to be rich comes at the cost of someone else! Please go home now before you waste more of the opportunity that could be given to someone with common sense.

          • betty

            You really have a warped view. This mob is expressing their perceived indignations that should be addressed in an adult manner rather than disrupting the lives of so many innocent people who are trying to give/get an education.

          • AnalogMan

            What they are fighting for may be bigger than themselves, but that’s just an indication of how small they are.

            Poverty statistics? Incarceration statistics? Yeah, we can fix that; just give us safe spaces where nobody can make us cry, and where we can bully some authorities just because we can. That’ll work, and it’s so much easier (and more fun) than actually working.

          • CXA340


            Your reply makes so many assumptions I am unsure where to even begin.

            These protestors are not demanding rights – A right is in and of itself the denial of action – you are free to engage in the activity and others are denied the permission to prevent you from doing so.

            Issues like education and healthcare are not rights – no one has a right to an education, or healthcare because in all these cases the government is not restrained from allowing you to engage in education, instead the government is using coercion to take away others rights to give you a service – your right to a free education comes at the coercion of the teacher who must provide it at the point of a gun. These precious little self-centered snowflakes understand nothing of rights, but seek out free privledges.

            As for oppression – these little snowflakes completely cast off any notion of personal responsibility (their own and others) and instead want a free and just society where victims are deserving of the crimes committed against them and criminals are the true victims of an oppressive society that has robbed them of any free will. You speak of minority experiences as if they are so traumatic as to render a human some crying, emotionally damaged sycophant – but the truth is being a minority in any one situation has nothing to do with one’s ability to grow up and cope with the world around them (and yes I am a racial minority in the country I live in).

          • jummy

            But they are also fighting a system of oppression that you just completely wrote off, basically saying that their experiences are invalid (think about that for a second. It is utter nonsense to say that someone’s experiences are invalid).

            The accusatory trope of “denying” another’s “experience” is a stale method of shaming people for using their critical faculties. That you think it’s an effective rhetorical maneuver only shows that you haven’t thought about it.

          • Grant Ellis

            More of the same close-minded, hyper-dramatic echo-chamber nonsense we’ve come to expect from the chronically unemployable.

          • Stan Rothwell

            CB: “But they are also fighting a system of oppression that you just completely wrote off”

            What nonsense. They are simply fighting for one thing: the right to silence others while they make slanderous, gratuitous, and insulting comments about people they don’t even know, much less understand. They loudly condemn others and paint them with a broad brush, while screaming like wounded hyenas any time somebody dare criticize THEM! The narcissism, ignorance, and total lack of respect for the rights of others exhibited by these hysterical crybabies knows no bounds.

          • Rick

            I love how you defend your statements by immediately making assumptions about everyone that disagrees with you CB. There is a historical precedent for this . . . if you defend Jews you must be a Jew lover. If you defend blacks you must be a N– lover. Those are the tactics of the Nazis and the White Supremacists. I love the way you spin their tactics into your “ideal world view”, not surprising they felt the same way.

        • betty

          Nor I. Nor anyone who is looking to hire rational people who can express themselves independently, outside of mob rule. Prove yourself as a productive, thinking person , seeking to broaden your knowledge, and skills and you will be accepted regardless of your perceived inequalities.

        • betty


        • Jennifer

          “They bought themselves a life of extreme privilege by convincing themselves of how oppressed they are.”

          This is the most succinct and accurate description of a social justice warrior that I think I’ve ever read.

        • MPC

          Couldn’t have articulated my opinion any better.

        • Dan Button

          Fantastic comment TJP. Very well said.

        • Alarmed Pig Farmer

          Their lives will consist of academia, activist nonprofits, the blogosphere, and government bureaucracy.

          Yeah, as I watched those poor black students bravely standing up to the runaway white racism besetting them, I peered at each and said to myself, “My God, these people have HR dept and school administrator written all over their faces.” Beats working.

        • eric

          Hate to break it to you, but government bureaucracies would laugh these crybullies out of the building.

        • Chester Simon

          “They bought themselves a life of extreme privilege by convincing themselves of how oppressed they are.”

          Agreed and sadly, no sign of their “checking their privilege” any time soon.

        • Liz

          True that!

      • ChokingKojak

        Hi, what’s it like attending Cuckmont McKenna?

        • JamesD

          I still don’t understand why people use cuck as an insult, literally nobody cares if you call them a cuck because not everyone knows what it is and those that do literally just don’t care.

          • Steve

            It’s a joke from 4chan. They aren’t trying to insult you, they are trolling

          • Liz

            A cuckhold or cabrón is a man who is so dominated by his wife that he allows her to sleep with other men. It’s really someone who tolerates disrespect because they are a total weenie.

      • scripps16

        College isn’t supposed to be the real world. College is supposed to be a learning environment… which means that administrators need to be supportive of ALL students.

        • Annie Oakley

          Better call a Waaaahmbulance

        • Martin Knight


          The only way to support all students is to get rid of those students who are not ready to learn.

          • betty


        • European

          Scripps, there is tremendous learning in having your most sacred ideas challenged. The best way for a university to support all students is to give them a proper education. Trust me, there’s rarely a better education than somebody telling you that you are full of shit to your face.

          Grow up, and go back to class.

        • JWAE

          There is a difference between supporting someone and enabling. You are asking for the latter.

        • CXA340

          It is a learning environment – it is not a large group therapy session. You are students and not patients and the University is not charged with handing out free medication so you can get over the childhood trauma of not making the cheerleading squad.

          Supporting all students means having the same exact expectations of all students to somehow manage to show up to class on-time, learn the material, and pass your exams so you may leave the school better prepared for the future in order to find a job and provide for your own self.

        • dana daddee

          you think allowing those protesters to disrupt the lives of other students, to bully an administrator into resigning her job, etc etc, is justifiable?

          I would expel every single one of you if it were up to me…

          you’re bullies and tyrants in training.

      • Jahnke

        No chance they even get an interview with me. You need to think, kids, we are watching. We said to expect us … to be writing down your names and blacklisting you all.

      • James Wolf

        Attention students: if you try this childish nonsense in the real world you will find yourself unemployed. Grow up and learn that other people have the right to hold opinions that differ from yours and that may even offend you. Diversity means accepting the right of all people to hold differing views. Learn not to be intolerant children.

    • styrgwillidar

      ‘When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.’

      Edmund Burke,’ Thoughts on the Cause of Present Discontents’

      • Tiny Montgomery

        You got it, dude. University administrations have been devout cowards since the late 1960s. They yack the yack, but in the end, they will always agree to punish the silent and cowed placate any group, regardless of how tiny, that screams at people.

        NOVEMBER 13, 2015 AT 10:35 AM
        ‘When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.’

        Edmund Burke,’ Thoughts on the Cause of Present Discontents’

        • Stan Rothwell

          Tiny Montgomery: “You got it, dude. University administrations have been devout cowards since the late 1960s. They yack the yack, but in the end, they will always agree to punish the silent and cowed placate any group, regardless of how tiny, that screams at people.”

          As a graduate of Cal Berkeley who has seen this scenario played out before, all I can say is that you are spot on w/r/t your assessment.

    • harkin

      Your fear is what they want.

      Props to the staff for an island of reason in a sea of madness.

      • F. B. Black

        It truly is a sea of madness, but really, people (including the administration) should simply laugh out loud at them. And wonder for how many years they’ll be living in Mommy’s basement after they graduate.

    • Daryl

      “When you give yourself permission to communicate what matters to you in every situation you will have peace despite rejection or disapproval. Putting a voice to your soul helps you to let go of the negative energy of fear and regret.” – Shannon L. Alder

    • mikea.

      Please do so. Please.

    • JoAnne

      Don’t be afraid. If you don’t stand up to the bullies, they win.

    • tonya

      Well written and I send you my support. Keep the faith and keep standing up against a violent, mean spirited loudmouthed minority on your campus. You have to fight against them or your generation will be lost to the madness.

    • Scott Martin

      Grow a pair and speak up!

    • BBart

      Be brave! At the end of the day, you have to be proud of yourself FIRST!

    • Scott Martin

      Interesting that one person in the lead picture is wearing a Che t-shirt. Che was a murderous POS. Celebrating him speaks volumes of how this person’s logical, moral, and ethical compass is “broken”.

      • Hal

        And Che t-shirt guy is a straight up cowardly bully, cursing and mocking Ms. Spellman, backed by the rest of the snickering jackals in the crowd, while she stood there and took it. Che t-shirt guy should be expelled.

        • Don Faris

          But before he’s expelled he should have the livin’ dog shit kicked out of him.

          • scripps16

            Every event on these issues this week has been peaceful. I am appalled that you would encourage such violence, no matter your political differences.

          • Martin Knight


            Nonsense. If you think this sort of behavior is okay, while demanding “trigger warnings” and claiming that “microaggressions” cause irreparable mental/psychological trauma, then there is something wrong with you.

        • Deserttrek

          che was a racist murderer … any human being praising che is a racist and supports murder

          • dana daddee

            scripps says the bullying and causing the administrator to resign her job is “peaceful”…

            scripps, you’re an idiot…

            a useful one, but still an idiot.

          • Riccardo Boehm

            I just went to Cuba. Lots of Che t-shirts for sale and tourists buying them. Che was a sadistic murderer and the CIA did a good job on him.
            When I see people wearing Che paraphernalia (outside Cuba) I ask them why they don’t wear a shirt with Heinrich Himmler’s face on it. They don’t recognize the name, I tell them he killed a lot of people, too.

      • betty

        Thank you for pointing that out I had missed it

      • In any case Che was participating in a dangerous struggle against powerful forces with real stakes – this college kid is cursing at a lady he wants to get fired for using a slightly awkward phrase to be nice to someone. It’s more embarrassing to imply a connection with Che than it is immoral or unethical.

        • Tony

          But according to your earlier comment che would’ve just been doing it for the paycheck… That’s pretty embarrassing if you ask me.

        • Chris in NC

          Che was a murderer who eliminated and tortured entire families. If you like Che, you have serious deficiencies in your morals

        • Liz

          Che is a t-shirt to these idiots. A girl at Mizzou wore an NWA hat while trying to keep a student journalist from reporting a story. Assata Shakur was a member of a group involved in bank robberies, cop killings, prison breaks, and such undemocratic acts as murdering a judge yet people abuse the term racist to defend her zealotry. They could just say that they appreciate her philosophy but not necessarily her methods. They are too immature to look at things outside of their dogma of good people vs bad people. All heroes are complicated. Why do the BLA/ Baader Meinhoff/ IRA types need to put their idols on this God like pedestal ? Is it because they follow cults that don’t tolerate dissent?

    • Chris Mazur

      Sadly, given more power, their instinct would be to load you into a boxcar.

      Kudos to the Independent for standing up to this insidious PC fascism.

    • CMC student

      Hahahaah watch it!

    • Burn them first. Wake up.

    • August

      Being afraid allows the bullies to get bolder. They will pull you in. It is past time to push back.

    • Blue

      Grow a pair. Stand up for yourself and feel the burn. If it’s right, it’s right. Your opinion and “safe space” is as valid as theirs is. Your silence gives them victory.

    • Hal V

      Brilliant piece. Congratulations on your moral clarity.

    • David Winters

      When people give into fear, then the enemy wins. When people give into the mob mentality, then chaos reigns. The French went with this back in the late 1700’s. Those of you who have a want to learn and thrive, who need a good education without being told how to be educated by those who do not believe in your rights need to march against them. Courage is all that it takes. I wish I was there for you, but you have to do this on your own. Either make your stand or go silently in the night!!!!!!!!!

    • Paladin

      Just be sure that you understand and can articulate what this letter is saying. If someone can’t be civil to you because you have a different opinion, then chances are that person isn’t worth trying to impress.

      People of like minds tend to rally around a person of character, they just need someone to take the lead. I encourage you to step out of your comfort zone and see what happens. I’d be willing to wager that at the end of the day, in spite of your trepidation and any negative fall-out, you will be glad that you did.

    • Con Reeder

      Right on! I am proud of the persons who wrote this op-ed.

    • Not a student here

      Do it – share this with everyone. All of you who are afraid have no need to be. Those of us outside or finished with college fully support you. These bullies and cowards have no place in the real world. Nor do they have one in a place where you’re supppsed to be challenged. They only have power because it is given to them. Don’t ever forget that.

      • scripps16

        Why is it that white students are not allowed to be challenged in the same way? Why do you acknowledge that college is a place for your ideas to be challenged—but only if you are a student of color?

        • Publius

          You keep trying to desperately make a valid counterpoint on this comment board, yet have done nothing but fail in the attempt. I think you know yourself, that at the end of the day, everything that has been said in this editorial is spot-on true. And yes, the country of 40-50 years ago was far more civilized than this pathetic excuse for an “enlightened” society that we live in today.

          • Publius, gotta disagree with that last bit. 50 years ago this was a rotten place to live, by design, for whole segments of the population. People weren’t even more polite. Changes in the media and a decline in formality do not equal decivilization. Complex social changes are underway, some of which are “guided” by movements that need serious injections of humility, good-faith, and cogency.

        • Martin Knight

          You’ve been trying to stuff “racism” into the mouths of these writers throughout this thread. At no point did they say that only people of color should have their views challenged.

          You are a living breathing example of the utter failure of critical thinking and honesty that is produced by the educational environment demanded these so-called activists.

          • dana daddee

            brilliantly spoken.

        • If you want to challenge people use discourse. You find the girl dressed like a “Mexican” and you have a conversation with her about racism. You ask the administrator what she meant when she referred to the “CMC mold.” You don’t bully people into giving your movement new buildings. It’s mercenary, opportunistic.

        • Stan Rothwell

          scripps16: “Why is it that white students are not allowed to be challenged in the same way? ”

          You’re SO desperate to turn this into a race/class issue, aren’t you? Apparently the only way you can ever win an argument is by smearing your opponents as a “racist” or “hater” and browbeating them into submission.

        • Tony

          What are you talking about scripps? These sheep screaming for the safe space are trying to get rid of the white students how’s this not a challenge? But if said white students form a group shouting “white lives matter” you along with your hive minded herd would be out for blood because “they dont deserve to have a safe space they’re white”

      • Not a student at Claremont

        Well said. Agreed.

    • Leave school if your that scared to stand up to bullies

      • Tony

        My sentiments exactly bill

    • mitchell

      I’m extremely proud of the group that wrote this article. I think it’s important that the vast majority of this country agree with every word of your article. This group is no different than a bully picking on a fat kid, or gay kid. It’s hard to imagine that administrators would sit back and allow the school to be taken over by extremists.

      Just know that the vast majority of this country, regardless of race or religion agrees with you. It’s time we all stood up, and spoke out against these stalinist tactics.

    • Ann Harris

      I know it’s difficult to express your own views when it might ‘offend’ someone. However, everybody needs to be ‘themselves’, not a sheeple. For all you know, some of your peers may feel exactly as you do but, they too are afraid to speak up.
      I’m 72yrs old so I can’t advise you as I’m far removed from your environment time wise and generation wise. I only know that it is difficult at your age.
      That said, you need, as much as possible, to find out what your peers stand for. You may be in a group who stands with you or, you may be in a group that is totally contrary to your beliefs, in which case you don’t want to continue on with them.
      The bottom line is the importance of “free speech”. If you or your friends are afraid to even express your opinions, then you are a victim of those who would deny free speech. Good luck with your future education. And, always think for yourself.

    • Richard e Villegas

      You Coward, You stand for nothing if you don’t stand against this.

    • Jim R

      Do it!

      Friends stick with each other even when they disagree over politics. You’ll find out if they are friends or not.

    • Share Away

      It’s that fear that allows this nonsense to reign supreme on college campuses. Stand your ground!

    • Rob

      Make a list of names. If anyone gives you trouble there will be an internship/job at Blackstone waiting for you.

    • Izapole


    • Totalitarianism

      So you’re afraid to exercise free speech because of violent reprisals?

      Just to be clear: That’s the hallmark of totalitarian regimes.

      So the question is: If you were witnessing the creeping growth of totalitarianism among your peers (which you are) would you (will you) be silent?

      Say yes, and you deserve *exactly* what’s coming.

      And history is very, very clear about what’s coming.

    • Robyn Parker

      “The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it” Albert Einstein

      • betty

        Perfectly said

    • Harry Schell

      I wouldn’t be too concerned. These people are particularly brave when they are in a mob. Individually, most of them are cowards acting out a role for the moment.

      45 years ago I was active in politics at Middlebury College and there were similar paroxysisms of student “activism” about a war far away. The similar “shaming” of those who dissented from the preferred narrative went along. The average student knew very little about why they were doing what they were doing, much less about the actual subject…but it was the thing to do and exciting.

      I heartily applaud the Editorial Board of The Independent, as you have honored its name and intent. The leadership at the faculty and student level clearly prefer the Quisling approach to dealing with would-be dictators and mobs. “Bowels of water”, I think the English phrase is.

      I suppose the increased diversity among the faculty will include hiring some conservative professors into the ranks of the social “sciences” cadre. Or not.

      Carry on, people. Stand tall and reckon that sticks and stones may break your bones, but words will never hurt you unless you let them. These people are emoting so hard they can barely think, and their words are simple mottoes for simple minds.

      Note also that holding the activists to their own codes of conduct will produce terror inside them. Turn Alinsky against them. Especially if you do it with a calm smile.

      • Harry Schell

        Forgive me, I hit post before correcting “paroxysms”

        I hate it when that happens.

    • betty

      What a shame; that is why those who are causing the disruptions on campus are able to do the destruction they are inflicting. As an adult you need to learn to take control of your right to express yourself freely, to stand by your convictions, or to allow fascism to take hold. These “mobs” are denying others from the education they have paid dearly for by causing fear among the faculty and the rest of the student body. the colleges should be a place of free thought unhindered by the complaints of those seeking to limit the rights of others. T
      he manner in which they have chosen express their unhappiness is not acceptable behavior in a civilized society.

    • Faith Steketee

      I agree – take a stand anyway. I promise you will not regret taking a stand. . . ever. I’m much older than you and I took a stand about a year ago against a local politician. I knew it would cost me my job, but I can sleep at night because I did the right thing.

      Doing the right thing is not easy – especially when you’re doing it. But I promise you will look back and feel pride. You’ll also be able to sleep well at night.

    • Jahnke

      Seriously, you are pathetic. Don’t be such a sissy and a worm. Who cares if some smelly hipster idiot wearing a Che shirt is going to throw a little tantrum and call you mean names?
      Look at them, do they look like people who are going to amount to anything in life? Rise above the Occutards, racist whiners and socialist traitors. Be better than them. You won’t even KNOW these chumps in a couple of years. You may see a couple begging for change every now and then … flip them a quarter and tell them to get a job.

    • Ben

      So what! Don’t be afraid and be “strong” in your believes. That is what it makes you unique and fearless.

    • jason

      who cares what they think or say? That is the whole point of this message!!!!!! SHARE IT!!

    • Jacky

      Not willing to come forward with your opinion out of fear,
      I can understand

      But remember this:
      “First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
      Because I was not a Socialist.
      Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
      Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
      Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
      Because I was not a Jew.
      Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.”

      In the end they will come for you, making Orwell’s 1984 reality

    • Name11

      The Asian woman from the video link was actually not silenced. The group let her finish her story in spite of how long-winded it was. And the protesters even politely clapped for her and some thanked her for sharing (listen carefully at the end). But the fact that prejudices exist among all racial groups, wasn’t really relevant to the movement’s topic–namely (1) the lack of a “safe space” similar to those found at the other claremont colleges and (2) the hostile environment experienced by minority groups at CMC, subtly validated by the “othering” rhetoric used by Dean Sepllman. I’m not making a comment on the validity of the movement and/or on whether their response is the best. But if we’re going to have a productive discourse all parties have to present the evidence in context and evaluate it critically and frankly.
      I’m also surprised by all the comments accusing the protesters of being overly sensitive and unprepared for the “real world”. I’d venture to say that these individuals won’t be necessarily pursuing a finance career or something of the like. In some employment sectors, for instance the non-profit, hostility grounded on racisma/homophobia is taken more seriously.

    • Andrew Crawford

      Sent this on Monday:

      Dear President Hiram Chodosh-

      It was a poorly chosen phrase to be sure but the College has let all of its community, both students and alumni,

      down by failing to back her. You obviously failed to go to the wall for her, choosing instead some of the most

      pusillanimous language concerning her grace and the educational challenges ahead.

      You have one job. Put the little darlings in their seats and ring the bell. And if they have a problem with that

      tell them a couple of stories I hope you have about the realities of life outside your Ivory Tower.

      Feel free to call if you need any.

    • Casey

      I too loved this article. I couldn’t agree more! My wife is a high school teacher in SoCal and she loved it as well. She wants to share it with her class.

    • Richard Rider

      It’s time for the alumni of American colleges to provide some adult supervision. STOP GIVING THESE LEFT WING PC COLLEGES MONEY!

      Too many people donate to their “alma mater,” based on a hazy recollection of their halcyon college experiences. Whatever you remember — real or sanitized — ain’t what’s happening on almost ALL of today’s campuses — public and private.

      Stop funding these anti-freedom, anti-American, totalitarian-oriented, brainwashing reeducation camps! Target your donations to nonprofit groups that support freedom.

      Perhaps more important, revise your charity donations in your wills and trusts to fund institutions that support the liberties and Western classical liberal values that at one time supposedly were the standard at American colleges and universities.

      I have. I’ve shifted my donations and my charitable remainder trust beneficiaries (a modest trust, to be sure) to the nonprofits defending liberty — Heritage, CATO, REASON, Institute for Justice, etc.

    • Richard Rider

      I suggest that it’s time for the alumni of American colleges to provide some adult supervision. STOP GIVING THESE LEFT WING PC COLLEGES MONEY!

      Too many people donate to their “alma mater,” based on a hazy recollection of their halcyon college experiences. Whatever you remember — real or sanitized — ain’t what’s happening on almost ALL of today’s campuses — public and private.

      Stop funding these anti-freedom, anti-American, totalitarian-oriented, brainwashing reeducation camps! Target your donations to nonprofit groups that support freedom.

      Perhaps more important, revise your charity donations in your wills and trusts to fund institutions that support the liberties and Western classical liberal values that at one time supposedly were the standard at American colleges and universities.

      I have. I’ve shifted my donations and my charitable remainder trust beneficiaries (a modest trust, to be sure) to the nonprofits defending liberty — Heritage, CATO, REASON, Institute for Justice, etc.

    • Liz

      Me too!

  • Chris

    I am a CMC student of color who supported the movement when I read the open letter to the administration. It gave clear examples of why racism is institutionally prevalent and listed ways that this situation could be improved. However, the recent demonstrations have demonstrated that I cannot support this movement. This mob’s willingness to sacrifice Dean Spellman and the girls from the Halloween photo for their cause has demonstrated that they lack the empathy that they themselves desire. How can they expect the administration and members of the Claremont community to be compassionate for POC and other marginalized communities when they limit discourse by dismissing anyone whose opinions are not as radical and liberal as their own? And like another commenter on this article, I could never voice this opinion—many of my friends have spent countless hours involved in these events and would regard this comment blasphemous.

    • Student

      They never called for Dean Spellman’s resignation. You have them mistaken for others who attended the demonstration.

      • Supporter

        Don’t get too caught up in pedantic so. A mob is a mob.

        Well put Clairemontv Independent Editorial Board.

    • A Supporter

      Good for you!!

    • Deserttrek

      you are a human being not a person of color .. you denigrate and compartmentalize yourself from the start. There is no institutionalized racism, there are hucksters who will use you and others to pursue their own ends.

      be a free thinking human being and stop being a tool for others to push their anti freedom agenda

      • Deserttrek,

        You can call yourself a Cincinnatian and still remain a human being. We use titles and designations for a reason and terms like, “person of color” are still useful as long as recognizable groups of people are still treated differently, or still end up with statistically shittier outcomes.

        Denying the existence of institutional racism is really insane. Examine the criminal justice system, examine education, employment, and personal finance systems. You’ll see statistically proven patterns of racism.

        Once again though, this shit in academia is identity politics run amok.

        • John Skookum

          The only de jure institutional racism is that committed against white people and Asians, and the only de jure institutional sexism is that committed against men. Affirmative action is racism and sexism, straight up, and no fatuous communist on a college campus can change the language to make it not so.

          In the entire sweep of human history since caveman days, there has never once been a place where women and non-Asian minorities were as assiduously, obsequiously protected and given unearned privileges than on an American college campus in the 21st century.

          These stupid children are victims of mob hysteria and brainwashing. They should be scorned and mocked, their lists of insane and preposterous demands spit upon with contempt, and the Gramscian termites in college faculty and administration who are ultimately responsible for these events should be treated like enemies of the nation.

        • Corgi
    • Steve

      ” And like another commenter on this article, I could never voice this opinion—many of my friends have spent countless hours involved in these events and would regard this comment blasphemous”

      If you can’t tell your friends how you truly feel and what you really believe…are they really your friends?

    • Chris Blask

      Well said, Chris.

      But realize that if you cannot stand up to your friends you won’t be able to stand up to anyone else, either. Righteous action is hard and complex, the primary failure of this movement is that its members made it easy and simple.

      Good luck with your evolution. Damn fine name you have there. ;~)

    • August

      I know how hard it is to stand up to a braying mob. But fear of doing so will only result in you losing your precious freedoms to the fascist bullies. Conservatives and people of faith are spit on everyday in the mainstream media and institutions of higher learning. And there is a special kind of hate for black conservatives. Go look up what is being done to Professor Carol Swain of Vanderbilt. The mob is after her scalp.
      It’s not about black or white. It’s about ideology and freedom of speech……if you are willing to fight for it.

    • Evil American Exorcist Witch

      Too little too late, you started the fire. You going to put it out?

    • TnrzMum

      My dear, if your ‘friends’ would blast you for having a differing opinion, then I would highly recommend you get new (and better) friends. The old adage of ‘you are known by the company you keep’ is just as true today as it was decades or centuries ago. You are an adult, therefore should make adult choices. All the Best to you.

    • Ann Harris

      Good for you. Just the fact that you say you don’t dare speak your opinion, shows what it’s like to be a victim of those who would deny “Free Speech”.
      When I was a kid, a long time ago, we used to say, to those who called us names, “sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me”. Guess that’s why older generations are somewhat tougher. You didn’t go out in the world, as an adult, to be told you need protection from any slight. There are so much more dangers to be faced than being called a name. Continue to stand for your beliefs. as you are, and not someone else’s beliefs and you’ll find life a lot easier than having to cover up all the time. Good luck!

    • betty

      I f you are unwilling to take control of your life by suppressing your opinions and freedom of expression, then you are a part of the problem. Further, you are destroying your own rights and freedoms. When do you plan to make a stand for what you believe? Take a leadership role in teaching this “mob” the proper way of addressing discontent and dissention. The writer of the article did just that. Join the adults.`

    • Stan Rothwell

      Chris: “I could never voice this opinion—many of my friends have spent countless hours involved in these events and would regard this comment blasphemous.”

      This many be hard for you to accept, and no offense is intended… but people who would condemn and harass you for expressing your own personal beliefs are NOT your “friends”. I am not a CMC student myself, nor have I been a student for over 2 decades now, but if the majority of the replies here are representative of CMC students, it would appear that there are many people at your college who you might not consider as “friends”, and may in fact disagree with on many issues, would still likely respect your views, and treat you better than those same people you call “friends”. I realize that there’s always a lot of lip service about “diversity” on college campuses these days, but the only diversity that really counts isn’t about skin color or sexual orientation, but about academic inquiry and open exchange/discussion of ideas. Those “friends” of yours who would excoriate you for dissenting on questioning your position aren’t interested in listening to what you say, but only using you as a vehicle to advance their own party line.

      What you are doing here in speaking out here is commendable. Get to know some of the people you may not have chosen to associate with in your present social circles, and you may find that you develop a new circle of friends – maybe people you don’t agree with, but who will treat you with the respect that you deserve.

    • dana daddee

      good for you, critical thinker!!!

      sorely missing among the protesters…

    • Liz


  • Chris

    “The student in this video was speaking about an event that happened off campus, and which was completely unrelated to our time-sensitive proposal (the President had declined months’ work of hard work on this proposal just 20 minutes before the protest) and unfortunately it was not handled well. She should have been informed that the purpose of this protest was not to blame individuals for racism, but rather to assert a series of demands from out administration that will make CMC a more welcoming space for students of color.”

    What about making CMC a more welcoming space for students who might not necessarily agree with 100% of what you say? What about making CMC a more welcoming space for students who might not have learned English as a first language? The utter lack of patience and empathy makes me question the validity of this movement. This is not an inclusive, compassionate movement. This movement does not care who it throws to the lions. These individuals seem to care less about issues concerning race, and more about the thrill of having an impact on our school. Did Dean Spellman’s or Kris Brackmann’s resignation have a positive impact on our school? Did it encourage them to become lifelong allies to marginalized people? Did it accomplish anything? Everyone I know who is critical of the movement is afraid to voice these opinions—especially POC who feel pressured to agree lest they are condemned as traitors.

    • Sammi

      I have had these same thoughts over that past few days and still grapple with many of them. I too wondered what good the resignation of Dean Spellman and Kris would bring about, but as I thought about it I realized both resignations certainly don’t have an immediate reward. Instead they have the potential to be rewarding in the future of those people that take Spellman and Kris’s place are more sensitive to POC’s and their needs. So it isn’t the taking away that is the accomplishment, it is the possibility of adding to that is the accomplishment.

      • Chris

        Let me get this straight…GUARANTEED lost job, lost income, start over for the Dean, GUARANTEED lost position, ridicule, exclusion for the student…

        For a POTENTIAL reward of a Dean and a student that are motivated, by fear of losing their job/position, to at all costs at least “appear” sensitive to everyone who is not WHITE.

        THIS helps combat racism how?

        Racism is an issue of the heart. NONE of the actions of ANY of the students across the US attempt to change the heart. All of your demands are exterior, physical, and most often self-serving, and/or selfish.

        You’re not helping end racism…you’re putting it under a microscope and projecting “microaggressions” onto a theater screen and screaming that what you’re showing is the norm.

        It’s not…

        Go after the heart. Change their heart…and they’ll stand with you to end racism.

        • betty


    • MV

      This is well said and encapsulates much of what I’ve been thinking. I am liberal and a POC, but feel alienated with what is going on. The way the group dismisses the student struggling to tell her story as an Asian immigrant is heartbreaking and painful to watch. Maybe it wasn’t intentional and some of the students will look back and learn from it, but it reflects poorly on this group.

      • Margaret

        I really no longer give a flying fandango about “special students of xyz color telling their story.”

        Great, you have a story. So does everybody. I’m sick of these mob-ruled snowflake encounters where everybody’s shrieking their personal narrative at one another and complaining about…whatever.

        College isn’t supposed to be a theatrical production where the weakest egos get the brightest spotlight, and then the audience wants to jump into the cone of glare.

        I’m here to learn about the larger world around me, not navel gaze like a bunch of New Agers or race hustlers. I’m here to learn about larger ideas than human obsession with race, gender, “sexual preference,” etc. I want to know the GREATEST IDEAS humans have ever had. Not this fashionable 1960’s social engineering garbage. I’ve had it with that! My entire schooling has been polluted with it!

        We can’t even study evolution as it applies to humans–it’s forbidden! We might learn something that challenges PC!

        I want to get back to facts and data. I’m sick of dancing around the feelings of snowflakes who throw tantrums. They are fascists drunk on Will zu Macht, and they care about nothing but 1.5 seconds of fame on Twitter.

        • betty

          So well expressed.

        • CXA340

          Actual quantitative data has absolutely no place in today’s university system and its focus on life experiences as the basis for facts. The plural of anecdote is not data, but to hear these students speak you would not think that they know that.

      • Belinda

        Their dismissal of the student’s story was very intentional. A women tried to silence her and the eye rolling was clear.

        The veneer of moral righteousness was stripped right off during that unguarded moment. This movement is about power and the power to abuse others.

    • anon

      That “thrill of having an impact” is a euphemism for will to power. I’ve read about fascist movements, but now I’m seeing one up close. They’re drunk on their own power. They wouldn’t dare act like this if they were genuinely afraid or marginalized.

      Their beliefs let them rationalize all this as serving some higher good. But it’s really just an excuse to be a bully.

      If you’ve ever wondered how otherwise intelligent people can get swept up into a genocidal mass movement, you’ve got a ring side seat to how it happens. And happily, other than a few minor assaults, so far still nonviolent.

      • Lex Luthor

        Beautifully put. I bet two or three individuals from each of these campus protests will go on to further attempts to gain power later if this current batch of protests fizzle out.

      • Stan Rothwell

        anon: “That “thrill of having an impact” is a euphemism for will to power. I’ve read about fascist movements, but now I’m seeing one up close. They’re drunk on their own power. They wouldn’t dare act like this if they were genuinely afraid or marginalized.”


    • Ann Harris

      That group are bullies. The only way to deal with bullies is to “push back”. Whether the staff were fired or chose to leave, that was wrong. That surely wasn’t pushing back. Society, as a whole CANNOT allow these “Progressives” to forge ahead with their agenda. As I see it, their end game is to muzzle free speech. That simply cannot happen. If you are not free to speak, regardless of how offensive your speech may be, then you are a slave to others who would have you follow them into the abbiss of socialistic oppression.

    • Chris, your commentary here is really helping me understand the situation. Thanks.

  • J

    Thank you Claremont Independent for this article. You spoke my heart.

  • What

    Then why are you too scared to sign your own name?

    • Hannah Oh

      Our website doesn’t allow us to list all three names as authors, but I, along with Steven Glick (Publisher) and Taylor Schmitt (Managing Editor), wrote the article.

      We’re on the “Meet the Staff” page.

      • oldshib

        Kudos to you, an eloquent and brave response. Especially to someone whose given name is apparently What.
        As for me? No, I won’t give my name. I have children and no desire to incite a barbaric, unthinking mob. It is a very short step from what you have now to violence, What.

      • Basil Duke

        I commend you! It’s going to take a considerable number of people like you to drive a stake through this Stalinist monster’s heart. This isn’t simply a matter of standing up and publicly admitting that the emperor has no clothes; it’s a matter of standing on a roof top with a bullhorn to bellow that the emperor not only has no clothes, he’s a totalitarian beast who wants to criminalize dissent and enforce it by the power of the slavering mob (I believe Mizzou’s ‘Professor” Click refers to it as “muscle”) that follows him. These leftwing tools obviously have no interest in any sort of dialogue. And they obviously cannot be reasoned with. Their goal is rather clear now, isn’t it? The community has been completely organized, hasn’t it? Orwell was prescient, albeit off by 31 years. The new Red Brigades are on the march, and are empowered and further enabled with every college administrator’s scalp they hang on their mangy lodge poles. The campus left is eating itself, but won’t be sated by those middling offerings. Mainstream America is their ultimate goal. Good for you for refusing to submit to your own personal struggle session. Would that many more join you in fighting back against this psychotic trash.

      • Carol

        Very well said; I applaud the three of you. CMC must be doing something right.

      • Michael Ryan

        Hannah: I am impressed by the clarity of your message, your morality and most of all your courage to speak the truth. This is a remarkable act of leadership and I thank you for it.

      • Annie Oakley

        I love you Hannah!

    • Bill

      Why scared to post by real name? Because the fascists have amply shown they are willing to put a yellow star on those with whom they disagree. They have made a climate of hate.

      • I have read many thoughtful comments on this thread today. This is not one of them.

        • Z

          Sir, I have a very Plain Jane name. I don’t just fear for myself, I fear for others who share my name. Would they be bullied, intimidated, shamed, or ??? I’ll stick with Zed. If you plan a rally, need me to put myself on the line, I will do so, but I won’t endanger others.

          CI, thank you for your courage. Thank you for practicing what you preach….try posting a comment at “themaneater”.

          They have a story on the defacing of the Black Cuture Center, and my comment calling attention to a timeline error will not post. Read the timeline in the article and look at the twitter time stamps.

    • geokstr

      Why do you ask? Looking for whom to send the thugs after?

    • Why the hell do you think???

  • I partially agree

    While I agree with the majority of the statements made, I cannot agree of the faculty of color comment. It is unfair to make the assumption that if faculty of color were to be hired in the same fields as their white counterparts they would be inherently less qualified.

    • T

      Please reread that section of the article.

      It’s an enthymeme. Enthymeme’s leave out the middle of a syllogism because it is obvious.

      Here is the full set of syllogisms:

      If the college does not have a history of biased hiring practices, then it has already hired the best person for the job in an unbiased manor therefore demanding that it hire with a bias in favor or POC (or other minorities) it will have to hire people who are less qualified.

      To put it in the negative of the article: if the college ha been hiring based on bias then it would have not hired the best people for the job and some (many) of the best people for the job might be POC (or other minorities) . Since they didn’t hire in a biased manor, they hired those POC (or other minorities) that were the best choice for the job and any modification of that would logically reduce the quality of the outcome of the hiring process.

      Anything but a level playing field is essentially racist and biased. As a culture we’ve identified a number of factors that are built into law and organizational practices to attempt to level the field. POC (or other minorities) deserve THE SAME competitive opportunities as other groups.

      Sometimes leveling the field looks like bias in favor of POC (or other minorities). Let’s hope it’s not. The truth will out and if we hire and advance people to fill a racial quota, instead of to recognize merit in an unbiased way, POC who are less qualified will end up REPRESENTING PEOPLE OF COLOR as a generalized group. That would be really bad. You wouldn’t want people thinking POC (or other minorities) are less competent, right?!

      And the instinct to privilege POC (or other minorities) beyond a level playing field in order to right historical wrongs is hopelessly flawed. It drives the traumas of the past into the future.

      The instinct to silence every insult and to treat every awkwardness or flippancy as a micro-aggression is even more flawed. It undermines the credibility of important, fundamental claims of bias that everyone can agree with and support.

      The next step in the cause of social justice is to produce generation after generation of excellence. It is to fully participate and culturally enrich the environments that previously blocked access. It is to vigilantly claim and enjoy equal rights – WHICH REQUIRES THAT WE ALL PROTECT THE DESTINATION OF THAT EQUALITY, HUMAN RIGHTS THEMSELVES.

      Attacks on free speech are attacks on human right. Plain and simple. People engaged in this movement need to recognize that attacking fundamental rights is a path to being equally enslaved, not equally free.

      • Del Varner

        A response to this might be:

        I’m sorry this uses logic and reason and is therefore it is a White Cis-Male Euro-Colonialist response. It can be rejected out-of-hand.

        I of course agree with the writer’s reason and logic, but I fear many will not.

      • Chunky

        Wow! Your response is magnificent.

      • Eli

        That is sound logic, but it relies on the idea that there is an objective way to measure a candidate’s qualifications for a position, which is obviously untrue. I imagine what the students are asking for (and I do disagree with many of their tactics in the asking) is that the administration include, in their assessment of candidates their background. Perhaps in some fields, like physics or chemistry, there is no earthly reason to do this (although perhaps even this could be debated). But I think it’s ridiculous to say that a professor of American history will not teach differently, and have different ideas, if he’s black, or an immigrant. In all but the coldest sciences, our experiences color (no pun intended!) the way we perceive and process history, and therefore the way we teach it. There is inherent value in having a diverse faculty of history, literature, and social sciences, even if it means choosing a candidate who has a couple fewer publication credits to his or her name.

        • Abe

          If you are hiring people based on their “background” (meaning race) then you have a racist hiring practice. Even if race is only one factor among many, it will only become a relevant factor when it is a decisive factor: i.e. when you are hiring person A rather than person B because of their skin color. You may endeavor to justify that policy in any way you like, i.e. persons of different tincture teach differently, or persons of a certain “background” should be favored as a form of reparation, or because phrenologically they have differently shaped brains, or they have more or less bestial nature, are more mystically attuned to the earth, or have better rhythm, etc. Racial policy has been justified for all such reasons. Any such justification is exactly equally racist, in that it judges a human being differently based on his or her membership in a genetic subgroup. Policies based on “diversity” are fundamentally evil policy, and will always encourage the building of walls between people.

        • PBM

          Your assumption that the content of research in the humanities is (or ought to be) simply a matter of personal history (or worse, ethnic heritage) is deeply flawed. Aren’t you assuming that every person is supposed to have a common perspective based on his or her ethnicity? Would that not imply that race or ethnicity or gender somehow determine what we think? How is this perspective distinguishable from the debunked theories of biological racism from the 1920’s or 1930’s?

        • Liz

          How many phd’s come from the working class? Is anyone other than the upper class being represented in academia? How are they challenging the system by demanding they hire POC’s who come from money and believe the exact same slogans? I know no Dr’s who came from poverty. That is who is being underrepresented! The SJW’s could only exist in a upper middle class lifestyle where adults engage their every whim. These are the kids hanging out in the coffee shops and obviously not the ones having to suffer entitled customers in order to pay their rent. When was the last time you saw a kid mowing a lawn? Their status driven parents have raised them to think they are such geniuses that they should be kept from lowly jobs hence the not understanding why it is tyrannical to ruin someone’s career.

      • Margaret

        People of more modest endowments cannot let go of past trauma. Otherwise they’d have nothing to offer in a truly competitive system that rewards effort, merit, and outcomes.

      • Suzanne

        Your logic only works in a closed system. It also assumes that the hiring practices are completely objective and unbiased.

        Was the applicant pool from which these faculty hired as diverse as it could be? Does the school recruit widely through many different venues in order to ensure that the pool is at least representative?

        Are the qualifications and criteria valid and legitimate or do they invalidly privilege one group over another?

        • Beth

          Thank you

        • Jacky

          @ Suzanne

          Already beginning with demands?
          How can you force the number of applicants to be “as diverse as could be”
          People apply by choice, anyone can apply
          The only way to achieve your utopian view is
          if 2/3rd of the applicants are white, you throw out applications until their numbers are representing equal diversity
          *Basicly discriminating them based on race*?

    • @rightofgenghis

      1. It’s not an assumption, it’s fact.
      2. It’s unfair? Life isn’t fair and anything you do to “remedy” so-called “unfairness” only makes it worse by injecting your prejudiced biases into the situation, making it legitimately unfair.

    • Terrance

      You’re making assumptions. I don’t think there was any statement made in the article that of people of color are “inherently less qualified.” I believe what the writer is referring to is taking an ‘affirmative action’ approach to hiring faculty, and overlooking more qualified individuals for the sake of an agenda.

    • geokstr

      That’s what all the interviewing and vetting is about. We already have way too much of “additional points for minorities” hiring and admissions. Would you prefer that they hire a another less qualified candidate if they haven’t met the demanded quota yet?

      It’s your education. Do you want the best teachers to prepare you for your entire future or to make yourself feel better for a few minutes?

  • Definitely Agree

    Finally someone who’s not afraid to speak against an angry mob. I’m currently taking a gap year in another country so I only got bits and pieces of what happened. If the protesters really resorted to verbally insulting Dean Spellman and anyone who dared to express different opinions, I feel like this so called protest is merely a temper tantrum thrown by students who should be more mature. The fact the Dean Spellman resigned over a poorly worded e-mail is a clear indication that the protesters’ were, and probably still are willing to use anything as tools to fulfill their goal.
    I’m not saying that I in any way agree or condone the “CMC mold” e-mail or the stereotypes expressed in the picture. I’m just saying that as students of CMC, we should be more mature about such incidents and be at least a little bit empathetic before you berate and cause someone to lose their career.
    To the person asking you why are you too scared to sign your name, we would use our real names only when we feel it’s safe for us to do so.

  • Aman

    I’m a “person of color” and I completely agree with you guys. It’s hard to share this sort of thing on Facebook because that’s essentially asking for a shitstorm, but know that you have my support in any way I can provide it.

    • Jim R

      Just hit share. I’ve done it and pissed off family members and the world doesn’t end. If people demand you defend yourself just say you agree with the editorial and that men are now encouraged to share what they feel and not hide their feelings. That will throw them for loop, believe me. Just keep saying, ‘but this is how I feel.’ They can’t accomodate your fee fees and the fee fees of this mob all at the same time. Then if they want to ignore feelings and debate based on logic, hand their ass to them.

  • Alum

    As an embarrassed CMC alum, let me say “thank you”. Thank you for standing up to the tyranny of the Left. What a bunch of spoiled brats. How marginalized are you when you attend a $60K/year school, likely receive financial aid from the school and taxpayers, and greatly increased your odds of admission by “checking the box”? This is all really disgusting.

    Don’t shed a single tear over these weak-kneed left wing administrators losing their job. They fostered this environment. Let these tyrants devour their own.

    • Beth

      Your box checking comment just erased the accomplishments of students of color.

  • Selena

    I am glad to see there are still some CMCers who are using their brains not just their emotions. As an alum, i am beyond appalled and embarrassed at the events that have occurred in the past few days. I called the alumni office to voice my displeasure. CMC should be seriously worried about the alumni contributions over the next year.

    • Carol

      Yes indeed. And they should be aware that sensible parents are watching as they decide where to send their children and their tuition dollars.

      • Gina

        I have one young graduate in May and two others next year, and at the pace we’re going I am not going to have much choice of where to send them. I refuse to send my children to a University where mob rules, and were they might be bullied by so called activists that have no tolerance for different views as well as punishing free speech. Amherst just jumped the shark, and their list of demands is frightening, truly frightening.

    • CMC student

      It’s not all of us!

  • Mel Famie

    “That is not how adults solve problems, and your behavior reflects poorly on all of us here in Claremont. This is not who we are and this is not how we conduct ourselves…”

    Apparently it is who you are and how you conduct yourselves. At least you can comfort yourselves by observing that you’re not as nuts as Mizzou.

  • Gabriel Rocklin ’07

    “We come here to learn about views that differ from our own, and if we aren’t made to feel uncomfortable by these ideas, then perhaps we aren’t venturing far enough outside of our comfort zone. We would be doing ourselves a disservice to ignore viewpoints solely on the grounds that they may make us uncomfortable, and we would not be preparing ourselves to cope well with adversity in the future.”

    Good advice. Too bad CMC’s reactionaries use the advice as a club against the less-privileged rather than really taking it to heart. If they had more self-awareness they’d realize how insincere their commitment to “being made uncomfortable” sounds given the rest of their positions, e.g.

    “If you want to take a class in “ethnic, racial, and sexuality theory,” feel free to take one, but don’t force such an ideologically driven course on all CMC students. If the dearth of such courses at CMC bothers you, maybe you should have chosen a different school.”

    Were these two passages really in the same editorial?

    No safe spaces for you, gotta protect the safe space for the comfortable majority who know they’ll always be taught by professors that look like them, think like them, and were obviously hired exclusively due to merit. (We know they were hired this way because humans are infallible logical processing machines, and scholastic merit is an objective quantity that can be truly divined through the process of faculty hiring. Doesn’t CMC still require some kind of psychology course?)

    • KPM

      right, because you special little snowflakes can’t POSSIBLY learn anything from anyone who doesn’t look like you or think like you. When did the youth of this country turn into such simpering little wimps?

    • Carol

      You object because they take a stand against being indoctrinated? I think CMC should require a course on the Constitution.

      • Suzanne

        What in the name of Thomas Jefferson does the Constitution have to do with this?

        Not an advocate of learning about views different from your own, are you, Carol?

    • KHorn

      Gabriel Rocklin,
      I mean this very sincerely, grow up, you will find the world a much more pleasant place. I’m a white man, yet my advisor on my thesis was an Asian man and for my dissertation an Hispanic woman, yet some how I was able to learn a great deal from them despite the fact they didn’t look like me. How could this be you ask, simple, I’m not a raging racist like you.

      • Margaret

        But there was a lot you didn’t learn because you were isolated systematically from your own people.

        • KHorn

          True, true, but in compensation I did learn a great recipe for gallo pinto.

          • Margaret

            And for that you needed college and a thesis?

          • KHorn

            I thought you were being ironic in your first post. Apparently you were being ridiculous and obtuse. Please forgive me for over estimating your intelligence and sense of humor.

      • Dr. Necessitor

        Well said KHorn. I’m also a white male but my mentor in law school and afterwards in both my professional and personal life is a small, cranky, smart-ass, wonderful black woman. And decades ago, my grandma was one of only two women at the Wharton School of Business. According to her sister, my great aunt, “if your grandma could have gotten the other girl expelled to have all the Wharton men to herself…she would have done it in an instant.” (FYI, grandma was in the same class as Trump and said he was as much a douchebag then as now) Anyway, I’ve never met anybody stronger than my mentor or my grandma, and they’re both baffled watching the most privileged students in the country claiming to be oppressed by silly Halloween costumes. Grow up indeed.

        • frank

          Classy language. So it’s appropriate to call a Presidential candidate on a public forum a “douchebag.” Let me guess: you voted for the totally inexperienced, community organizer as President – a proven duplicitous and divisive man who will surely be remembered as one of the worst Presidents of this century. But having already exercised poor judgment, you feel free to trash an accomplished and well-educated person with an unsubstantiated slur. Here’s some advice: get out of your academic bubble from time to time and do the intellectually honest thing — read or listen to some opposing opinions

      • Suzanne

        Reading comprehension obviously was not one of the things you learned, apparently.

    • Jim R

      The ‘less privileged’? You mean those that profess the ideology that holds sway over every single liberal arts college in the country? The ones who can go out onto freeways and stop traffic without criticism? The ones who can get people fired and ruin careers by even uttering a word like ‘racist’ or ‘sexist’? The ones who redefine words to control the argument and insulate themselves from charges of hypocrisy?

      I am a gay man and I’m calling bullshit on all of this. I’m going to vote Republican for the first time in 30 years and this is the reason why. I’m hoping they actually have the balls to speak up against this fascist mob.

      • Chelle

        Well said Jim R…

      • Chelle

        I am so impressed with this article and with all the comments regarding it…I don’t know the age of the person’s commenting, but as a 54 year old white female, I am proud of how intelligent all of you are…it gives me hope for our future…

      • Liz

        The ” less privileged” who can afford to board at college and have never held a job. They have nothing in common with America’s less privileged. My parents couldn’t afford one of these ridiculous resort colleges so I paid for my own school. I was too busy working three jobs in college to tattle on professors who dared challenge the cultish slogans of the BLA. I believe plenty of theories without needing to exalt them as beyond criticism.

    • Silenced by Authoritarians

      Gabe, what’s the problem with someone looking different than you? Do you feel unsafe around people only because they don’t look like you? It sounds as if you would prefer to be surrounded by people of your own race. That sounds like racism.

      • Suzanne

        Sarcasm apparently goes right over your head.

    • Suzanne

      I was hoping someone else saw that.

      But don’t you know that the white, conservative, moral majority perspective is The One and Only True Perspective? It’s not “ideology,” it’s Truth. It’s Reality. It’s The Way Things Really Are.

  • On the Outside Looking In

    Very fine piece of work on what is rapidly becoming an emotional issue. Impressive writing as well as a courageous stand, I should add.

    • Thank you for a brilliant dissent, editorial staff. You can’t know how many people you have given hope and relief to with your words. We are with you. WE DISSENT.

  • 5c alum

    Your Caltech analogy sums up your bafflingly racist/classist argument: CMC is not made for people of color nor critical discourse. Therefore, everyone who is unhappy should get out. The problem is that CMC is not advertised so bluntly for what it is (or what you seem to all conclude that it is)– a white supremacist institution. The students protesting also don’t seem to agree with your definition of what the school is/ should be–and I’m glad they do not. Other parts of this article only reaffirm your position and how it has affected your worldview; you assert that to hire more POC professors would inherently mean professors of lower caliber (as if the reason for a majority white faculty is because there are simply not enough qualified non-white people in the USA), you scorn the need for a safe space (though you are upset about the disruption in your safe space). Also, I feel the need to say– disagreeing is fine, but being racist and classist is NOT.

    • Independent

      Thank you for demonstrating how you are part of the problem. You might as well renounce your degree and send back your diploma.

    • WKL

      You are insane. Absolutely insane. There are schools who specialize in the kinds of classes you want, but this school isn’t one of them. You shouldn’t go to Harvard Law and demand that they offer nursing courses; you should go to a medical school. You shouldn’t go to Caltech unless rocketry and robotics are what you want to do. And you shouldn’t go to this school if victim studies is what you want to do.

      It’s not they who are racist, it is you.

    • Speaking of Worldview

      Sadly, your worldview appears to be that any person that disagrees with you about race must be a racist because you (and your likeminded peers) have cornered the market on what is right and righteous. One part of me pities you… the other part of me pities America for having to deal with you.

      • KPM

        ain’t that the pot calling the kettle black. Oops, I’m sorry, did I just trigger you? do you need to go lay down in a dark, quiet room now and cradle your wubby?

    • CMC Alumn

      There was not a single word in this article that was racist. Not one word said people of a different race have inherently less worth, or that white people are superior, or anything of the like. Your definition of racism seems to be “anyone that disagrees with my worldview.” That you would call the authors racist while in the same sentence saying you welcome debate is just flabbergasting.

      To the CI: thank you for giving a voice to the voiceless. You’re right, people are afraid to speak out because they do not want their head on a pike like Dean Spellman or that ASCMC VP. I am a solid liberal, but this movement is not liberal. Liberalism, to me, includes welcoming and rationally engaging with different points of view. This “movement” is about demonizing other perspectives.

      For all it’s talk of creating safe spaces, it is actually doing the opposite. When I was at CMC, I remember having long and heated discussions late into the night on important topics, like affirmative action. From what I can gauge, even suggesting you disagree with affirmative action is now a microaggression and will get you branded as racist. That is not the safe intellectual space college was supposed to provide.

      But, more than anything else, I am astounded by the bloodlust of this movement. Dean Spellman used poor word choice. So there was a hunger strike to get her to resign? Gandhi went on a hunger strike because his people were being actively oppressed by an occupying military — where’s the proportionality here? Does anyone seriously think she is racist, and that this was anything other than a slip up? Have you, who argue that microaggressions are equivalent to mortal wounds, have no empathy for this person’s job — something of way more important than a momentary and unintended slight? And the VP who had to resign because… she was in a picture of someone else who had a costume that some consider offensive? How is that at all resignation worthy?

      To the students that support this mess. I pray for two things: (1) that you never make an innocent mistake in your life. (2) if you do, that you are held to your own ridiculous standards, and fired and see your whole life crumble over it.

      (Okay, I don’t seriously wish #2, but students, get it together you have lost all sense of perspective.)

      • C

        This is the outcome of “Liberalism” or more accurately leftism the likes of Stalin and Pol Pot. Now that your activism an anti-American teachings are coming to there ultimate conclusion you are now attacked and do not like the outcome. How quaint. You and the American left deserve the head on a pike treatment. Too bad you didn’t believe in the equal opportunity argument and instead went with the equal outcome group. Hope you children now have to deal with the S* sandwich you left them.

      • Jonah

        I would argue that it is a somewhat racist article, if unintentionally so. When you dismiss the grievances of a particular group out of hand and then focus entirely on the parts of their advocacy that you find irritating, that’s showing bias. In this case that bias just happens to have race as its primary element. One could quite easily imagine an editorial that, while critical of the activists in question, also honestly explored the case for systemic bias and how that might be fueling the outrage, or at the very least offered the slightest shred of consideration for students who might feel unfairly targeted but aren’t on the front lines protesting.

      • Liz

        Yes Blood lust!

    • Carol

      That is not at all what they said or implied, and you should be ashamed at twisting their arguments in this fashion. I am sure, however, that they could competently answer your distortion and not feel the need to cry and stomp their feet for a “safe space”.

    • Michael Alexis

      You need to go back and re-read the editorial. Starting with the part about not being allowed to change the definitions of words to suit yourself. You also should be aware that we recognize your attempts to shut down the dissent by assigning pejoratives. The point is that we are tired of your childish antics (oh look, I assigned a pejorative. My bad) and will not stand for them any longer. But to address the most egregious misstatement in your comment, the editorial stated that the call to hire more POC faculty and staff PRESUMES a history of discrimination at the college. No proof of that has been offered. However, IF the call to hire more POCs is simply for its own sake, it WILL result in less qualified candidates as any intellectually honest student of affirmative action programs can attest.

    • Mark Edwards

      “The problem is that CMC is not advertised so bluntly for what it is (or what you seem to all conclude that it is)– a white supremacist institution. ”

      ” disagreeing is fine, but being racist and classist is NOT.”
      Good Lord,.. you deem the institution as racist, any dissent from your radical fascist thought policing “racist”…
      but you still think your lame comment that “disagreement is fine” holds any water after that song and dance how everyone is racist,.. EXCEPT you and this “movement” ….
      You can’t show any proof of this supposed “white Supremacy”.. but by God you’ll accuse anyone and everyone who tells you.. no… of being guilty of it..
      You’re the intellectual equivalent of a toddler screeching I hate I hate you when denied the cookie, the ice cream you DEMAND RIGHT NOW…..
      You have no real complaint except YOU aren’t in control of everyone else’s thoughts and speech… and we can’t have that now… can we Adolf?
      “White Supremacy” has become the mythical fantasy beast you children must slay.. except it doesn’t exist, and you’re ignorant children making up a threat to excuse your own raging fascism…
      when you demand an end to free speech.. but only free speech of those who disagree with you… it’s clear who the real race supremacist is… that would be you….


    • Army Man of Pallor

      If you think Claremont is a “white supremacist” institution, your education has been wasted and your youth has been misspent. I think true white supremacists, like the Aryan Nation or such, would see Claremont for the uber-liberal, progressive run-of-the-mill college that caters to the whim of every minority or mental peccadillo.

      There is no institutional racism at any of these schools. The protests are all astroturf from the Obama wing of the far-left Undemocratic party. This is the only way that the Dem’s and their Alinsky breathing dregs can hope to turn out the black vote for Hillary. Look to the alternative media for the details to come out. The little protesters are either being paid by the DNC and the unions or they are being played.

      Just remember that the mob is just as tyrannical as the tyrant. Sic semper tyrannus.

    • To paint this article as racist in any context takes a mind boggling level of mental gymnastics. It must be exhausting for you.

      Based on your total response, on can only conclude that you –
      A. Lack basic reading comprehension skills,
      B. Do not really know the meaning of the word racism
      C. Are from a privileged background, and have never experienced true adversity, and are thus basking in your new found victimhood because it makes you feel all diverse and righteous.

      Whatever the case may be, your self imposed victimization will only last for so long. Good luck in the real world. With your fragile sensibilities you are going to need it.

    • Margaret

      Being racist and classist is absolutely fine.

      Humans are hardwired to discriminate. It is a feature of intelligence, granted by evolution, to allow organisms to face and make choices and build upon the repercussions.

      There is nothing wrong with being racist and classist. There is nothing wrong with any kind of discrimination. And there is no such thing as “white supremacist” except in the minds of petty ideologues who themselves want ultimate supremacy and power.

    • Jim R

      “Disagreeing is fine but being racist or classist is NOT.”

      Call me a racist then. I’m gay, but call me a homophobe. I’m a proud gay homophobe. Just fuck off with you telling me what is ‘okay’ and what is not ‘okay’. I’ll go with the Consitution and with the vast majority of people in this country that are not radical feminist or Marxist ideologues.

  • Charles C. Johnson

    I couldn’t be prouder of the Claremont Independent!

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  • 84Stag

    As an alum from the 1980s, when the school was mostly white and male, I appreciate this “contrarian” position. I agree with many of the points, especially the escalation by the students and the impoliteness and crassness of their exposition.

    The fact is that CMC is an incredibly sheltered learning environment; much more so than most other colleges and universities. I find it very hard to believe that the frustrations and criticisms of some of the students are actually to the level they espouse or as widespread as they claim. I mean, did this stuff happen when I was there? Did people of color feel marginalized; or not included, supported, and respected? I don’t know since I’m a white boy, but I’d bet the answer is “no.” That is not to say that I don’t welcome progress. Quite to the contrary, I’m happy the school has become more progressive and inclusive. But the fact remains that I and my similarly situated CMC classmates were (at that time) and are (now) considerate and compassionate. We had a great time and could laugh at ourselves, act like fools, have fun, and study like crazy. I don’t remember anyone acting racist or better than a person of color (although I’m sure it did happen). None of us ever looked at a black, Asian, or Latino classmate in any way other than simply as equal member of the student body. That doesn’t mean that we were insensitive to cultural differences; rather we simply didn’t care about the differences.

    I was disappointed and dejected when my daughter was rejected for admission to CMC last year. With what’s going on there now, I feel less so.

    • Carol

      Hah! Yes, count your blessings.

    • 5C Alumna

      As you rightly note, all of the 5C’s are incredibly sheltered. From this stunt to Kerri Dunn’s shoplifting and self-inflicted anti-Semitic vandalism several years ago, I wonder if a lot of the students (and faculty) at the colleges aren’t incredibly bored. Like children, they want attention from their peers, have an inflated sense of self-importance, and believe wholeheartedly in their neckbeard, Che Guevara, fascist, echo-chamber. They sit back in the dorm with their newest iPhone, flat screens, gaming systems, walk down to The Press, etc., and they want to give some meaning to their heretofore mediocre existence. They are privileged and entitled nobodies who gain some social cache through embracing the victim narrative.

      Nevertheless, they are stuck in the Abu Ghraib of So Cal, Claremont. Here they suffer, are oppressed and constantly victimized in sleepy liberal Claremont – land of trees, PhD.s, Bernie Sanders bumperstickers, bad folk music, etc. What’s a bored, entitled college student to do for meaning-making? Well, they see Yale and Mizzou on the news and know that you can get on TV and gain popularity through screaming, bullying and worshiping at the altar of Our Lady of perpetual Victimhood. Maybe if they embrace the new “cool” of being a victim, they won’t feel so bad about spending tens of thousands for a “gender studies” degree and becoming the best educated line cook at Applebee’s.

      • Jim R

        Exactly. This is not an oppressive environment. I didn’t attend the college but I worked in ‘downtown’ Clarement for years and lived in next-door, Montclair (looked down upon). Even a move to wealthier Upland did not increase my status with the cool kids of Claremont since it was so upper-middle class suburban gauche. I can picture these same spoiled kids at this protest getting themselves all worked up into a huff at one of the lovely tree-shaded cafes with outdoor seating and umbrellas over a full caraffe of wine. Or scones and lattes if they aren’t 21.

        We can joke about them as if if they are exceptional, but the ideology and rhetoric of victim-power they pick up from the college is the rule everywhere.

        If I had kids I would (try to) steer them toward a tech school or into a trade.

    • adam

      I never thought I’d see the day when CMC aspired to become Pitzer! HK and all the other generous alums will pull the plug in 5…4…3…

  • SJ

    Thank you, thank you, thank you Claremont Independent. I completely agree with these sentiments and views. It is hard to share these views when there is so much resentment and anger in people around, but I truly believe the protest was nothing but disrespectful and rude to the administration.

  • Kudos to you and your staff for a clear, calm and incisive piece. Here’s hoping more students and student publications show the same honesty and commitment to free speech principles, without which civil rights and the rule of law — indeed any form of “social justice” would not be possible in the first place.

    Keep up the good work,
    Charles J. Glasser, Jr., Esq.

  • Joe severs

    Clear writing and well said.

    • Autumn


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  • John

    Liberalism has completed it’s transition to outright fascism.

    • Mark Edwards

      It didn’t take long….. as inevitable as it was,..

  • Bob

    The modern university is the “safest” environment on the planet. It only becomes “unsafe” because of the demands of these protesters.

  • Autumn

    Bravo!! I wish that I was not so far away so that I could help organize a stand with you kids.

    What is happening on campii across the country is embarrassing and shameful. Proud of those of you ho are fighting against these paintywaisted little Marxists. Keep up the good fight, use reason and intelligence and not the bully tactics of the left. Don’t be the silent majority!!

  • Rdm

    Bravo. Howling lynch mobs don’t make for any type of justice. Studnts need to realize that being able to shout someone into silence says nothing whatsoever about if you are right …

  • O

    Great article. You should take great pride in what you wrote, because it needed saying.

  • Barry Davis

    I wholeheartedly agree with this piece, but can’t help noticing how even those who agree in the comments above are so scared of the fascists on your campus that they can only comment anonymously.

  • Brian

    As a retired newspaper publisher/owner, The authors of this opinion piece are exactly the type of individuals editors and publishers are looking for in their newsrooms. Political or ideological leanings … not so much. Bravery to take on mob think, from the left or right … Priceless.

    If I still owned my newspapers these wordsmiths would be hired in a second.

    Well done.

    As for the rabble instigating these protests, they would be shunned by any employer worth his/her salt. They have no idea the future they are bringing upon themselves in the real world.

    • Kurt

      They can always get government jobs or become professional leftists. That’s often what this is all about.

    • Margaret

      Baloney. There are few editors and no newsrooms anymore, and the publishers are all looking for the Internet currency of the new millennium: clicks.

      News is clickbait. Some stories get covered, in a biased way, depending on how they conform to the narrative of the publisher, which conforms to what the advertisers want them to say. The point is to get people to click on it, not to espouse and express the highest possible standards of reason.

      The only real news there is, anymore, is reported and commented on in the new media among truly open minded people. The CI editors who wrote this piece have a future not in “newsrooms” but in places where open minds and clear thinking are welcome, and that’s not going to be the NYT or WaPo. Where it will be, is still being worked out.

    • geokstr

      Brian, you must be older than me (and I’m old) if you think that today’s “unbiased”, “objective” “news” media are looking for courageous, thoughtful, honorable individuals like the authors of this editorial. They had better not put their roles at this publication on their resumes, because if most prospective employers at today’s media read this, these kids can kiss their “journalism” careers goodbye.

      For decades, periodic surveys of reporters, editors, anchors, headline writers and both journalism professors and students have consistently shown that they are far to the left of the American citizens on every issue. Their political donations and votes go to Democrats between 80-95% every election, yet we are told that does not affect their reporting at all.

      Stories abound of entire newsrooms in tears when a leftist candidate loses, and eruptions of wild cheering when they win. Haven’t you been watching the “debates” of both parties? You can hear and see the leftwing bias of the “moderators” blindfolded and with your ears plugged.

  • Lloyd Albano Class of ’82

    Like the staff at the Independent, I’ve been very disappointed with our current administration, as well as our preceding president. But it does my heart proud to see such a heartfelt and yes, brave, response to the cowardly resignation of Dean Spellman. This reminds me of the French revolution where the leaders were consumed by the flames of their own making. Lets hope that there are alum and board members who have the guts to effectively fire the current president and demonstrate there are consequences for moral cowardice for a man in his position.

  • Ol’Sarge

    Thank you for restoring my faith that not everyone of college age has devolved into emotionally-driven, grievance-based, selfish petulance and tribal thinking.
    Events of the last several weeks had me doubting for the future, but so long as there are some brave voices coming from people who will risk standing up for reason, rationality, and civilized behavior in the face of barbarous ethnic divisiveness, there may yet be hope.

  • M Larkin

    Well-said. As an alum from the early 80’s, I am glad that at least some of the students at CMC have common sense and decency – and understand the value of a CMC education. It is appalling how the former junior class president, the former Dean of Students, and the student who is a recent Asian immigrant have been treated by an angry mob of students. Calling themselves victims, they turn into bullies out to destroy the careers of those who disagree with their demands. And CMC administrators not only permit this, but apologize?? Showing weakness just makes the bullies stronger and more demanding. All across the country, students are disrupting the educations of their classmates because they want a “safe place” and a “comfortable home.” They are not interested in civil debate or tolerance of opposing views. They are not interested in free speech. They have no respect for others. They do not want to listen and learn. So why were these students admitted to these elite schools who clearly misunderstand the purpose of a college education? Maybe all the current administrators should resign and others who understand CMC’s mission and values be put into place. And the students who care nothing about anything or anyone other than their own agendas? Let them become social activists on the streets of Berkeley.

  • Keith G

    Every member of the Editorial Board should be expelled for publishing this hate-filled diatribe. What you wrote is beyond reasonable discourse. This is nothing but HATE, and creates a tremendously hostile environment for anyone who doesn’t share your mean-spirited views. It needs to stop. All funding for the Claremont Independent should be stripped immediately, and the entire Editorial Board should be expelled.

    • Charles Browning

      Surely you jest?

    • Brian

      Are you for real?

    • Commenterlein

      This has to be satire.


    • Tex Lovera

      Troll gonna troll.

    • Wanderer

      I pity you, living in your little bubble of hatred and misery, living in mortal fear of the reason and sense that could set you free and screaming in pain when it gets anywhere close to you. You and your fellow squalling infants are the source of real hate and hostility, but you don’t know what those words even mean. In case you’re curious, they are not just bludgeons you can use to beat down people who do not share your jaded, selfish world view. You do not get to make up your own definitions for words.

      Please sit back and enjoy watching the Claremont Independent editorial board go on to succeed at life while you wallow in your precious victimhood and pretend to be relevant.

    • Carol

      This is satire, yes?

    • CGU Alum

      The person calling for expulsion of the editorial board and closing of the newspaper reminds me of a chapter from Peter F. Drucker’s autobiography. (You know Drucker-the guy the Clarenont management school is named after?)

      The chapter is the Monster and the Lamb. It details what happened when the Nazis came to Vienna and demanded the firing of all the Jewish staff and professors. Drucker resigned in protest-and left town that night for his own safety.

      Drucker’s book The End of Economic Man will give you insight on how to push back against these protestors. They are unwittingly employing the tactics of fascism. Make no mistake, they are the enemies of freedom. Learn from Drucker’s example and push back hard.

      • CGU Alum

        Drucker’s autobiography is Adventures of a Bystander. Perhaps the Drucker foundation will give you permission to republish The Monster and the Lamb chapter as an excerpt.

    • Independent

      You are the reincarnation of Robespierre. Shame on you.

    • jjostm

      o hai troll.

    • Margaret

      Excellent satire!

    • susan longley

      Why is the Asian student in upper right video continuously “fawning” and caressing black female student? Also why is this student continuously turning her back and seemingly “sulking.” Hardly an independent and virtuous stance.

    • Annie Oakley

      you are gonna have a tough life brah

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  • Charles Browning

    To the delicate snowflake atired in the red Che T-shirt and holding the coarse, profane sign: I would remind you that profanity is the last refuge of the truly ignorant.

    I’ve prejudged you but I think I’m very close to the truth.

    • Donald Bryan

      No, you didn’t prejudge. You used your eyes and your intelligence to make a fair evaluation of a self-proclaimed fool who honors a mass-murderer.

    • adam

      The Che shirt speaks volumes. This was a man who raped a housemaid on the dinner table as a youth and delighted in murdering innocents, including children. A sadist’s sadist, too much even for Cuba’s Soviet sponsors.

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  • David Jones

    Thank you, Hannah, Steven, and Taylor, for your bold and articulate dissent. Your setting the record straight about the situation at CMC is a beacon of light and hope to those of us residing in the Show-Me State who are appalled at the parallel situation at Mizzou.

  • Jon Russell


    As one who often dissents against popular opinion, I found your editorial both impressive in content and character.

    Well done.

    Jon Russell
    Madison, WI

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  • Donald Bryan

    BRAVI to you at CI for standing up against the mob. Would that “adult” college presidents, administrators, and faculty had your spine and brains.

    In light of this neo-Stalinist/Alinskyite wave of insanity that has gripped students across the nation, I am instituting a policy of No Hiring of anyone who graduated after 2009 – unless they served honorably in our military.

    Thank you, snowflakes of all colors and of “none”: you have broadcast what a giant dumpster-load of coddled wretches you are. Thanks for the heads-up.

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  • It is frighteningly disturbing that this generation of students has chosen to ignore the achievements of crossover and gone to greater extremes of racial sensitivity in their demands for resignations. I can’t imagine college universities now having the stomach to even listen to Richard Pryor or George Carlin, two of the many whose humor brought us together in the 70s. Indeed today’s students seem to have lost all sense of humor. I can only speculate this comes from a poor interpretation of what they expected that we went through or what others before us did. We sought the guarantees of the Constitution and we also wanted to escape small places and move about freely. Listen to the students at Little Rock High School. Remember Charlayne Hunter. Study James Farmer. They worked to end segregation, not to hide from insults or even injuries. What is clear to me is that far too many Americans expect from oppositional politics what can only be achieved from actual friendship, which is mutual respect and admiration. This is the sad result. Where calling someone a ‘racist’ has nothing to do with what someone actually believes, but one’s position in an artificial political war. This fight is not about crime and punishment, it’s not even about the law. It’s a tawdry catfight over bourgeois privileges between bourgeois actors which desperately seeks to inherit the imprimatur of Civil Rights struggle. My ass.

  • Mudd 82

    Well written!

  • Tex Lovera

    I am absolutely gobsmacked that an editorial board at any liberal arts college, much less one in California, would espouse something like common sense in the face of the current tsunami of childish foot-stomping by these entitled, aggrieved Maoist malcontents.

    My God, there may be hope for this country after all.

    Give ’em Hell.

  • Texas Mom

    Great piece! I hope that when my boys are old enough for college, they will speak up as you have spoken up. Keep up the good work!

  • Ron Nelson

    Bravo!! For taking a stand against these foolish pawns professional communist agitators. If these sheep ever had an original thought they would think they needed a shrink. 1984…Animal Farm

  • Sw Mo Prof

    Kudos for a well-written and very cogent case for real education. It might behoove the agitators and victimhood advocates to learn Latin and to realize that education is not about hearing over and over again what you want to hear, which is inculcation ; but rather that you are to be drawn out of your safe spaces and into the real world and to have your best qualities drawn out of you rather than your baser instincts. Perhaps it is time for the professorial class to insist on macroaggression toward those who would prefer to shut down the academy than to participate in the academy. Macro-aggression = awarding Fs for those who do not meet basic standards in reading, writing, arithmetic and decorum. We can civilly debate issues, we can pursue justice, and we can act like or adults or we will descend into barbarity. Far too many students and faculty at Mizzou, Yale, and Claremont have evidently chosen barbarity over civility.

    • Sw Mo Prof–thank you for suggesting realistic actions that could end this craziness going on across America’s campuses, and in her cities. One thing this needs to work in our permissive society are nerves of steel and lots of guts, plus a sensible board of regents to back you up.
      Apparently, in the distorted thinking of these youth, they feel so entitled to special privilege that they are like bratty children kicking on the floor of the grocery stores because they can’t have their way. And we are intimidated. Give your child’s butt the swat he/she deserves to snap them to reality and you are a ‘child abuser’ in today’s permissive environment.
      As one who was raised in a family of eleven children who didn’t have time, need or desire to protest, I worked to make my own opportunities and didn’t whine. The world isn’t always fair, so what. Get over it and quit whining. Figure out how to make your own life better and help others along the way.
      MO Prof, thanks for letting us know all members of academia aren’t liberal fascists nuts.

  • RickZ

    First, let me say I have no connection to CMC.

    Kudos to the writers of this editorial. I just hope you’re prepared for the Social Justice Wanker sh-tstorm about to hit you like a ton of bricks.

  • Wanderer

    Well done.

    Fight back and watch the fools run. The world needs people like you, Hannah, Steven, and Taylor.

  • Angie Sharp

    Wow. This was awesome. If y’all don’t take a stand now, be prepared to bend over some more as THIS will not stop. It is a given that if you give in to childish demands, you will encourage MORE childish and irrational behavior.

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  • Michael Alexis

    Congratulations on your very fine editorial. You will now, no doubt, be receiving some very negative feedback and threats. Please know that this article is going viral. We have your backs. We stand with you. We will not be silenced.

  • Amanda

    I would add one thing… the demand for “diversity” and “diverse” universities (or companies) bore out of the thought that all would benefit from being with those who are different and have diverse points of view. These diverse points of view are exactly what these protestors around the country seem to want to silence. My how we’ve come full circle.

    • JW

      Diversity for diversity’s sake is every bit as destructive as racism. In fact, they’re the same hatred, just packaged differently.

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  • Victor Erimita

    Fabulous. But sad that such manifestly clear thinking and basic courage is the exception on today’s campuses. The growing legions of hysterical bullies, and the cadre of operatives behind the scenes stoking and supporting them, are quickly destroying our universities, which of course s their goals. Seize the microphones and bullhorns back from them.

  • JW

    Those of you afraid to post to your Facebook or twitter just remember one thing–these idiots are BULLIES. Bullies are COWARDS. Once they’re confronted, especially by those who, like article above, use logic and reason above raw emotion, the first thing they’ll do is look for additional endorsement–and guess what? Outside their little group, they won’t find it. This “movement” is nothing more than a blip in time. They have done incalculable damage to their “cause” with their hateful, aggressive tactics. Stand up to them–you’ll find them backing down sooner than you would have guessed because at the end of the day–THEY’RE WRONG.

  • Thank you for writing this, a lot of us with young children are wondering if there’s still going to be a sane place for them to get a college education, and you give us hope.

  • Geoff

    Wow! Just Wow!

    Just when I was beginning to think we had lost an entire generation to mindless, spineless PC gobbledethink, an adult appears from the wilderness. When you graduate and apply for a job, please attach this editorial to your application; I think you will find yourself in great demand among the pool of mindless snowflakes the higher education system seems intent on producing.

  • Steve Olson

    Well and bravely said. Congrats to these student editors. And thank you, for taking a stand against the emerging fascism that seems to have captured far to many of your fellow students at Claremont and in other “institutions of higher learning” across the country.

  • Flax

    I prefer the voices of reason to the voices of whining cry babies.

  • Karen

    Dear Claremont Students: Please please please speak up in defense of this editorial. You are the future leaders. The fate of this nation rests on your shoulders. As I look back through this history I have experienced in the past 60 years, I realize that much of the reason you are facing this is because so many of your parents and grandparents capitulated to the same kind of tactics, although they were more subtle in our time. I do not understand the mentality of the ridiculous demands that are being made, but I do know that if you do not stand up and speak the truth, there will be a time when no truth can be spoken. Some of you will have children, some will not. But you all bear responsibility for the nation and society you leave to the generation you raise. I never thought this nation would become silenced through political correctness and slander. Please do not make the same mistakes we did in keeping silence out of fear, because if you do that no one will ever be safe again. Please speak out, we will be supporting you. Signed, a grandmother who wishes she’d had the courage to speak up for truth.

  • MockingJay

    ‘Bout time someone said it. Well done!

  • Roy E Bode

    You can take great pride in standing up for the First Amendment and against mob intimidation and anarchy. Its time for the silent majority of students to join you. Good luck in your careers in journalism !

  • Dan Goldzband

    I’m an alum from 1978. As such, I really don’t know the details of the school’s culture these days. It is entirely possible that some students have legitimate complaints about being marginalized, and that is an issue that should be discussed and resolved to the greatest extent possible. But I agree with those who point out the disproportionality of the resignations over small matters of poor judgement and word choice by people who actually care about improving the school. We should all be careful how we express our thoughts. That said, in any world with more than 1 inhabitant there is going to be conflict and friction, and mature adults should not blow microaggressions out of proportion.
    Mine was CMC’s first coed graduating class. I know we said and did things that were inappropriate (women as well as men). I wish inelegance could be driven from the earth, but it won’t be. Learn to deal with it as mature adults so we can solve the really serious problems. Poor choice of words on an email does not compare with repeated abuse by some bad cops.

    • Margaret

      You mean like the two who gunned down a six year old autistic boy because they had a grievance against their father, who reported them for being criminals hiding behind badges?

  • CGU Alum

    Very well written editorial! There is hope for CMC yet!

    Some time ago I was introduced to something called “the gates test.” If you eliminated all barriers to immigration and employment, which way do people migrate?

    We see it happening today with the refugees from Syria: they go towards Western countries. Countries with private property rights. Countries that are republics and not dictatorships. Countries where everyone is supposed to have equal protection under the law. The EU, USA, Canada, Australia.

    Why is that the direction people go? Did those countries only become wealthy by exploiting others? Does the education of women matter not at all in growing a country’s economy? Does freedom of political expression matter for economic growth? Does private property safe from confiscation by the government matter? Does rule of law matter?

    These are the questions that CMC faculty once challenged students with. Is that to be replaced with mob rule silencing dissent?

    CMC is an institution, and institutions are critical bullwarks protecting freedom feom those that would oppress others in their pursuit of power. I pray that more in the CMC community speak up. Otherwise, what is your tenure for?

    • betty


  • max blancke

    I was saddened to hear the mob’s reaction to hearing the words of the Chinese student. I would imagine that she knows quite a bit about repression, either from personal experience, or from the shared experience of her parent’s generation.

  • Handsome Jack

    I mean seriously, a kid in a Che shirt with “F* you” as his position? That kid needs to be kicked out, how did he make it past high school?

    • Dr. Necessitor

      Sure he idolizes a mass-murderer but he still requires a safe-space from offensive Halloween costumes because wearing a Sombrero on October 31 is way, way worse than killing many people. How do you not understand this? Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

  • keith nightingale 1965

    The student body needs to seriously reflect on what it is and take some intellectual rigor on this issue as well as personal responsibility. The response, as well as that of other colleges with like issues, has been uniformly fascistic and bullying. No intellectual discourse is allowed or tolerated. Calmness has been sequestered in favor of emotion-and reality has been abandoned in favor of grossly exaggerated inequities. To say that the present campus of CMC is a adrift with various forms of prurient racism and intolerance is a gross misstatement of the environment. Let the CMC leadership do a reasoned analysis of the issues-separate fact from fiction and make rational adjustments. In the meanwhile, the students need to revert to learning on how to become useful responsible citizens within a democracy rather than torch and pitchfork bearers at a Frankenstein redux.

  • Thank you for speaking up. Keep up the good fight.

    (add share buttons to your blog!)

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  • Neill

    Finally, a voice of reason. The editorial staff who wrote this piece deserve praise for the courage and well reasoned arguments.

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  • Reggie

    There are MANY people that are very glad that you guys have spoken out and are not retarded like your classmates so clearly are.

    Don’t be scared of those losers.

  • Stupid SJWs

    These stupid SJWs would lick Hitler’s boots if he promised them free college.

  • rabbit

    Brilliantly thought out and brilliantly written.

    Perhaps liberalism — in the original meaning of the word — will again flower on American campuses, and stem the rise of authoritarianism that seems so prevalent. Perhaps university leaders will once again find the courage of their convictions.

  • Kevin

    Bravo! This is the best student newspaper editorial I have ever read. Thought provoking and mature. I am ashamed of the behavior of students at my alma mater (Yale) and the equally clueless response of administrators there.

  • Mike Danger

    The ultimate conclusion to the student protest movement will be the slashing of University budgets and by consequence the elimination of non-traditional departments which neither prepares students for a professional life and contributes to the radicalization of young, naive students. At the very root of this problem is a new form of racism that seeks to separate and antagonize people of different American sub-cultures. This movement is as vile and evil as the KKK of old and should not be tolerated.

  • Terri Bachtel

    After reading this, for the first time in a long while I’m proud to say I’m an alumnus of CMC. One of my favorite lines from your editorial is “College is the last place that should be a safe space. We come here to learn about views that differ from our own, and if we aren’t made to feel uncomfortable by these ideas, then perhaps we aren’t venturing far enough outside of our comfort zone. ” Isn’t that what a liberal arts education is all about? Thank you for a thoughtful, reasoned reply to what has been going on the past few weeks.

  • Melissa

    Thank you. This was brilliantly written and eloquent. It perfectly encapsulated what I was feeling over this entire episode.

    Well done. You are miles ahead of those bullies (and that’s what they are) who indulged in such childish behavior.

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  • Parents

    We are parents of a Freshman who worked so hard and was thrilled to get accepted to CMC and we are disheartened by all that has happened this past week and the uncomfortable situation and distraction from “college life” the students are now forced to deal with. We agree with the Editorial 100%. Please stop this nonsense and let CMC get back to their mission, “To educate students for meaningful, productive, and responsible lives of leadership.” And don’t leave our young adult wondering if choosing CMC as their first choice was a mistake.

    • Margaret

      Remove them now and send them to trade schools. Our infrastructure is crumbling, our cities being destroyed–adults will have to rebuild, and these grievance-snowflakes will not be ready for the job, only ready to sponge off it.

  • Bruce

    Excellent editorial – I believe those who succumb to mob rule by the eternally offended probably shouldn’t be in charge anyway. Those who went along with the communists, socialists, or anarchists should probably grow a pair or figure a way to start thinking for themselves – that’s what a college education was originally intended to accomplish. Maybe those colleges that have weak administrations will emerge from the chaos generated by the eternally offended and other non-contributors of society with just a bit stronger resolve to accomplish their real purpose in life . But I doubt it.

  • BRAVO! Just when you thought all hope for adult conversation and rational thinking was lost, out from behind the shadow of idiocy comes a voice of reason….

    We should all be applauding these students for boldly saying, “Shame on you!” and being the only grown ups in the room.

  • Alex Sears

    Congratulations to the authors of this well-written piece. You’ve said what far too many are afraid to say, and put your cowardly so-called “leaders” on the spot. Your article is resonating far beyond Claremont, and hopefully will inspire other voices of dissent against the burgeoning New Cultural Revolution taking place at campuses across America.

    Two thoughts: (1) That radical movements making insane demands have suddenly popped up simultaneously at campuses across the country seems like an awfully convenient coincidence. Who, if anybody, is coordinating and funding these efforts? (2) It’s clear that campus administrators are either too craven to stand up to the mobs, or else perhaps in sympathy with them. It’s time for alumni who are shocked and embarrassed at what’s taking place at these colleges to start withholding all contributions — and letting the administrations know that they will continue to do so until some adult supervision is put in place and the colleges start pushing back against this nonsense.

  • Soph

    To parse the statement that Black people cannot be deemed racist (in the USA), for the simple reason that as a minority, they do not have enough power, and that racism is explicitly a power dynamic between majority/minority populations.
    So then: can a Black person be a bigot? Or prejudiced? Or discriminatory? Can a Black person be a hater, or worse, a hatemonger or demagogue? Or perhaps a Black supremacist–specifically believing that Blacks are inherently and innately superior to caucasians et al?
    It is demonstrably true that many radicals do believe in innate superiority of Blacks to caucasians: most specifically, a belief in moral superiority. But the only way forward is to accept the idea that whites and Blacks are inherently individuals, with individual accountability, and that no member race, ethnicity, or population can lay claim to innate superiority by dint of such (in intellect, capacity, morality, or any other human trait). Blanket denunciations, sweeping generalizations, are what divide us.

  • Bravo–well stated. I see there are some in our colleges that actually understand what it is to be a liberal.

  • James Camp

    Well done. The last few days have been nothing if not a revelation of astonishing ethical and intellectual incompetence across the United State’s higher education system, and it is crucial that the moral midgetry of these students is condemned along with the cowardice of those who make concession to them.

  • Big Papi

    Very powerful piece. Thankfully there are some level heads at CMC. Some of us out here were ready to write off a generation.

  • Evil American Exorcist Witch

    Individuals stand tall against the authoritarianism disguised as social justice.

  • Mandy

    Thank you to the three authors of this editorial for having the courage to hold a mirror up to the mob.

    Anyone who says you are too weak to live in a world where other people are free is not your friend. The view that minority students, and only minority students, are so fragile that they require protection from other peoples’ words and ideas is beyond offensive. It is not inclusive, it is not compassionate, and it is definitely not progress.

  • Dr. Thompson

    Thank you for your bravery. My father survived the Nazi occupation of Holland, and the fascism rising on this and other college campuses is terrifying. The book burning started back then on college campuses too. You are a light in the darkness. Millions will read this editorial and be encouraged and strengthened to stand up against a tyranny that drowns reason.

    The Salem witch trials were lead by SJW as well. They screamed, writhed and pointed at victims they accused of “torturing” them just by their mere presence. More than 200 years later, young mass hysteria with no real evidence behind it and deadly consequences before it has sadly, not changed.

  • Harry L David

    Thank you for having the clarity and courage to publish this during this time. Keep up the good work and know that there are many who support you and these views.

  • America’s libertarians want American college students — all of them — to “get Lou Gehrig’s disease.” I am not making this up.

    • Miguel

      Wow, so you link to one comment (out of over 150) to assert that “libertarians want American college students get Lou Gehrig’s disease.” With your superior logic, you’re a perfect addition to these modern day “Black Shirts”.

      • Looks like I touched a nerve. The prevailing attitude at is that all college students are coddled, SJW-Marxists who are petulantly demanding free education and conflict-free lives while squelching the freedom of others. Reason-libertarians have joined, to their discredit, Fox News and Rush Limbaugh in this anti-student hysteria. The sky is falling! Again! Why won’t anyone take libertarians seriously? Is it headlines like this:

        “College Students Want to Make Everything Free Except Their Minds”

        “Reason Weekly Contest: Offend Those College Students”

        “On Campus Free Speech, the Bad Guys Have Won”

        This is what libertarians actually believe.

        • geokstr

          Not all college students, just the Marxists, the Black Liberationists, the thugs, the radicals, who make up a tiny minority of the student body, and their loud, obnoxious screeching is designed to intimidate the rest. Their itty-bitty mob is egged on by outsiders – professional protesters, race hustlers, and communist organizers.

          You didn’t strike a nerve, but have begun to wake up a sleeping giant, and in the end, you’ll wish you hadn’t.

    • jjostm

      YES. You’ve uncovered our conspiracy. Every single Libertarian in America—who agree with one another 100% of the time—want every single college student to get ALS. And we would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn’t for you meddling crybaby politically-correct totalitarian trolls!

  • Bravo. This is the best piece I have read about this disgrace.

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  • Trent Kelso

    Bravo! As a CGU alum and former TA at CMC, I commend the editorial board for your courage. DO NOT BACK DOWN!

  • setnaffa

    This is a brilliant defense of freedom (of speech, thought, and education). I wish more university students really understood what you wrote about.

  • Debbie

    Bravo for speaking up! And it’s important to ensure that the person who replaces these chicken hearts deploying their golden parachutes like their salaries are part of some kind of performance contract, is someone who will listen to all sides.
    As a parent, I know I wouldn’t be sending our money to schools with admins like this and, as a teacher, I would encourage my students in the strongest ways possible, to shop their college choices carefully because it’s their education, their opportunities and their debt.

  • geTaylor

    “Remember that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty – that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men.” (George Washington)

  • Luke

    As a future CMC student, I hope that this editorial makes some of these protesters think about what they are doing, as well as being a call to action among intelligent students at a great school.
    Lest I rethink my decision.

  • Anthony

    Very well-written defense of freedom and civility. I was beginning to wonder whether there were any vertebrates left in the university system. Thank you for reassuring me.

  • Twoscent

    I call upon CMC’s leadership to educate us, not humiliate us, to enact change. I took out my notes of the 2015 commencement address to reflect and am now more confused by the actions of our leadership – but maybe the notes, as well as my reflections, are biased toward my perspective as staff. As I’m reminded in my notes, “A good society is an institution that does not humiliate its members.”

  • Bob Bobson

    Hilarious Picture….The girl with the “I am not a Diversity Statistic” sign has every minority looking her way…..and her sign is correct…she’s white!

    • Margaret

      How do you know?

      • geokstr

        Yeah, she might be a Rachel Dolezal clone. After all, everyone has a right to identify their own ethnicity, their own melanin content, what species they are and which one of the 723.1314 genders discovered by noted sexologist Mark Zuckerberg, of which exactly two have been spotted in the wild, they belong in.

        • Margaret

          She could be genetically Ashkenazi Jewish, Latino, or like the 1/8 black lady I worked with who had auburn hair, green eyes, and would get people fired if they dare called her white.

  • Eve

    Relived to see freedom of speech in action! Very proud of authors of the article!

  • Billiamo

    Finally! Someone with the courage to speak the truth amid the current madness. You are exemplary journalists.

  • 1998 Alum

    I have to say as an alum this makes me sad. There is so much ignorance both in the letter and in the comments.

    As a college professor, I can say that the writers are absolutely right that college should be a place where students’ ideas are challenged. (Do remember that this is true whether you’re conservative or liberal). However, college should also be a place where students can go to be taught. When the administration denigrates a student (even on accident), then that shows the student that it has already been decided that they are different from the other students (at best) or inherently not fit to be at CMC (at worst). This is compounded when there are few to no professors at the school who reflect their own experiences (race, class, gender, culture). Several of my profs looked like me and came from backgrounds like mine. I learned more from the ones that didn’t.

    Don’t confuse a place of learning where challenging, even distressing ideas should be the norm with a place where a person doesn’t feel safe because of the way people treat them.

    I remember CMC. A good chunk of the students were from middle to upper class homes (including me!). Class distinctions were fairly obvious on campus–even though they were rarely discussed and most students weren’t about appearing wealthy. When I was there it had a very, very white student body (and more men than women). Many of the non-white students were international students, not Americans. Considering how now I teach in a pretty diverse place, perhaps being at a school with a diverse population could have aided me in my career.

    All the people who are whining about the “bullies” that are trying to “oppress” them, let me tell you, you’ve never been oppressed. Not even close. You all “fit the CMC mold” and for most of you, it would never occur to anyone on campus that you don’t. Picture this: you’re walking on the edge of campus alone at night–you had to go home for the weekend and you’ve gotten back late. It’s cold so you’ve got a hoodie on. Are you afraid a police office might shoot you? If one stops you and asks what you’re doing, would it ever occur to you that they might not believe you when you said you were a CMC student? That’s an example of wanting CMC to be a “safe space.” To know that at CMC, your race wouldn’t be an issue at all. This whole debacle seems to prove that, at CMC, race is very, very much an issue.

    You can pretend that merit is all that matters, but you know that isn’t true. One commenter above noted that “he certainly wouldn’t hire any of these people.” But, what if they were the most qualified? Or can they inherently NOT be the most qualified because they have participated on the “wrong” side of this issue.

    I’d also like a definition of “merit.” Say you want to hire an English professor. They need at least PhD in their field. If it is a junior position, a publication or two could be required (a straight from grad school PhD won’t have had time to publish a book yet). They need to fit the expertise that the position requires. (They might have a PhD in English with a focus on Faulkner, but you’ve already got a Faulkner scholar, so you don’t want to double up, esp. at a small school like CMC). They need to be able to teach well. And they need to be able to challenge their students’ ideas, right? To help them confront things they haven’t thought of before, or read things they’ve never read or never dreamed of reading. Now tell me, how exactly could being of a different background than the students–and of a background not represented in the faculty– NOT be a good thing?

    If, as you claim, you want exposure to new ideas–if you want to be challenged–consider that one of that fastest ways to find new perspectives is to enthusiastically seek out people that don’t look, think, or feel like you.

    • Margaret

      Overall good comment, but you got one thing wrong:

      Nobody hires English Ph.D.s

    • Miguel

      You said: “If, as you claim, you want exposure to new ideas–if you want to be challenged–consider that one of that fastest ways to find new perspectives is to enthusiastically seek out people that don’t look, THINK, or feel like you.”

      That’s just it. Setting aside looks and feelings – which are irrelevant to objective learning – the ‘Black Shirt’ mob does NOT have any interest in finding new perspectives from people that think differently from themselves. This is the crux of the problem.

      You also said: ” Several of my profs looked like me and came from backgrounds like mine. I learned more from the ones that didn’t.”

      Your implication is that you learned more from a teacher solely because of their skin color and/or gender. Never mind your superficiality, this assertion simply doesn’t apply to the sciences, mathematics and objective truth. You, as a Professor of all things, need to get beyond looking at the surface level of skin color and gender, and instead focus on the depth and diversity of IDEAS as catalysts for learning.

    • Steve Olson

      1998 alum
      Thank you for a clear articulation of your opinion, and thank you for considering my opinion and the others expressed here. We seem to disagree about what’s happening and that’s a good thing. Our dialogue about that disagreement can be reasoned and we may both bend our views based on what we hear from each other.

      That is a far cry from demanding firings and shouting down those who disagree and I think that is rather the point of the well considered and written piece by the three students.

      More dialogue will be useful to those directly involved and this letter can be and should be an appropriate part of what is clearly a much needed, discussion.

  • Bob D

    President Chodosh clearly doesn’t have the courage to lead. He should step down and let who ever wrote this to take over the job.

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  • Don Faris

    I’ve got news for all you entitled, spoiled brat sissies. The real world is waiting for you. Well really, the real world couldn’t care less about you. Here’s another news flash. People in this country have an absolute right to be just as racist, bigoted and discriminatory as they want to be and you have no right whatsoever to not be offended. If you’re offended by our country, our system, our culture, our history or anything else about our country then get out. I can’t wait to see a real leader send in the dogs to put an end to this nonsense.

  • Johanna Santi

    You give me hope for our future. Thank you for your courage and clarity.

  • Yeah, gosh, you imagine the awful lives these oppressed students live and you just can’t help but think, “You know, Emmett Till was pussy compared to these Profiles in Courage.”

  • Rodney King’s SPirit

    Hurray for this editorial!!

    We have conditioned certain groups in our society in such a way I would describe them as MENTALLY ILL.

    When you spend days making mountains out of mole hills in order to bathe yourself in moral indignation one has to wonder.

    Are you collectively paranoid delusional OR are you megalomaniacs in search of power by any means?

    My view is this Perpetual Outrage of the Navel Gazing Victim Class is MENTAL DISEASE.

    Get help.

  • Concerned Adult

    As an adult who belongs to two minority groups and graduated from college late in the last century, it is good to see people standing up for common sense.

  • Nikolas

    Bravo! Finally, some sanity on campus!

  • Ben ’79

    Well written and properly expressed point of view.

    One important point that is often ignored in situations like this is how critically important time plays in situations like these. Had the Administration merely considered the demands of the students for an appropriate period of time, the insanity or propriety of these demands would have become apparent to all. Acting impetuously is something that education is intended to prevent.

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  • supporter of Paul Joseph Watson

    “Unless actual liberals stand up for the virtues of true intellectual tolerance, the future for free speech in the west is doomed.”

    “Thanks, progressives. You’ve brought back witch hunts after an absence of just 300 years. Fucking BRAVO.”

  • Martin Knight

    Well done, Steven, Taylor and Hannah on a fantastic editorial.

    But since you’re going to get similar praise by a thousand other people, especially, if, as I expect, your editorial is covered by the national news media – FOX News at the very least will want to talk to you – I’m going to focus on what you need to be prepared for.

    You’ve called down the forces of Social Justice upon your heads. You need to gird yourselves for what comes next. Social
    Justice activists are not only intolerant, they are incredibly vindictive and have no concept of honesty, understanding or mercy. Worse yet, they have the support of a key number of administrative staff and faculty (especially those who stand to benefit from students being forced to take classes in “ethnic, racial, and sexuality theory.”)

    1. Steven and Taylor: You need to prepare for the likelihood that you are going to be accused of sexual assault within the next few weeks. Or rape. If you have had any form of sexual contact with any of the protest participants, no matter how long ago, start looking for a lawyer. Do not allow yourselves to be brought up before any campus adjudication panel.

    2. Acts of vandalism or harassment would be “committed” and there would be no shortage of social justice activists who would come forward to claim that they witnessed you commiting them. Be prepared for this and ensure that you have evidence backing up your version of events and your whereabouts at all times. Wearing a camera and T-Shirt saying “I’m Recording Everything” is something to consider.

    3. Do not allow yourself to be placed under a gag order as part of any disciplinary proceeding against you. In fact, it is extremely important that you publicize what happens to you and the Claremont Independent (there would certainly be attempts to cut your funding) from here on in.

    Good luck. And well done again.

  • Claremont Mens College Alum

    President Chodosh, the only defense against the easily offended is rationality.

  • Journo Prof

    It takes courage to stand before the mob. Apparently, your journalism faculty is rather better at instilling that courage, and the principles which prompt and require it, than many at other institutions. Thank you for this editorial.

  • Marc Garrett

    One of the greatest gifts the founders of this country gave us was the Constitution, and throughout the many eras of this great nation, that document has evolved as our society evolved. From the freedom of slaves to granting women the right to vote. So much blood has been spilled by the men and women of this country to protect our most basic freedoms that we all have taken for granted. Basic freedoms such as the 1st Amendment.

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

    Only those who have endured true oppression could draft a law such as that. What a wonderful gift that has been passed down from generation to generation. There is a catch though to this wonderful gift. Every freedom does have its limitation; such as the Freedom of Speech and Freedom to Assemble doesn’t mean you have to like what is being said regardless of what side you are on. You cannot grow as a society if you use force or intimidation to stifle the opposing voice. To drown out, bully, intimidate, and stifle is oppression. You cannot use your freedoms to infringe on the freedoms of others. That in itself is tyranny.

    I live in Missouri and what happened in MIZZOU is nothing short of disgraceful and depraved, and unfortunately, these types of ‘movements’ are creating a unwanted precedence. The whole point of higher education institutions is to in fact, challenge every subject matter that you would deem offensive and sensitive, while improving upon academia. This is the art of higher learning. If students are incapable of stepping outside of their own predisposed prejudice, then a University is not where they belong.

    There should be no ‘safe space’ or ‘free space’ on any campus, because the Untied States as a whole is a free space, and thanks to those such as Rosa Parks and Dr. Martin Luther King – the Civil Rights movement was a success. People of all color bled, died, and endured beatings during the Civil Rights movement to end atrocities such as segregation. How would Rosa Parks or Dr. Martin Luther King react to these events transpiring today in regards to these “black only spaces”, “free spaces”, and these other various segregative acts across the country perpetuated by African Americans would react? They would be heartbroken; in fact, I am sure their spirits in the Heavens are sad to see all their work and effort come to an end 57 years later.

    It is the year 2015 and we have people complaining about social injustices, income inequality, etc etc. The bottom line is, if in 2015 you cannot get your life in order when every resource in the USA is available to you, that is your OWN fault.

    This new generation has become a generation of pointing fingers, mud slinging, and blaming others for their own problems or short comings with an element of entitelment. No one holds themselves accountable anymore and sadly, the silence from many has emboldened and empowered this particular group of people.

    Now here is the gut check. These ‘activists’ are not ready for the real world, and the Universities who have coddled this behavior has done a grave disservice. In the real world, you have the right to assemble and I have the right to fire you and hire someone looking to earn an income. That is the reality.

    Here is the other hard reality. Who do these people think finances these Universities? These public Universities and campuses are predominately financed by us, the tax payer. The tax payers are getting tired of this nonsense being these campuses are supposed to be used as institutes of higher learning, not a super political action committees, and this is extremely political.

    In closing, I hope some element of sanity is regained across the nation. Right now, everyone participating in these protests are actually regressing back into another time period that was in fact oppressive. You cannot demand reparation for something you never experienced in this lifetime on behalf of an ancestor, any more than I could make a demand based on the death of my people in Poland before the United States got involved in World War II.

    • The Beachdancer

      Yes, you are right.

      I too thought of those brave persons who in my youth stood up to vicious racism and those who lost their lives in doing so (both black and white).

      These ‘children’ can’t even explain in a 30 minute video what it is that has actually happened to them or what it is exactly that they want. They just whimper and emote. Then they release a torrent of aggression on authority which has already given in to every one of their demands and apologised.

      The email was a friendly almost grovelling apology which ended by apologising for not realising that not everyone was identical. That final sentence triggered a call for her resignation. IT WAS AN APOLOGY.

      So complete surrender and grovelling apology produces rage and escalation.

      It reminds me of the Cultural Revolution.

  • Scott

    There’s a great lack of cognitive reasoning skill in these racial, sexual, moral Alinskys. Classic case of ’emotional reasoning’ or assuming “that your neg. emotions necessarily reflect the way things really are: ‘I feel it, therefore it must be true.’
    “your feelings guide your interpretation of reality.” Subjective feelings are not typically infallible. They can cause people to lash out at others who have done nothing wrong such as the mostly white admins POC decided to target at Mizzou, etc.

    Emotional reasoning dominates many campus debates and discussions. A claim that someone’s words are “offensive” is not just an expression of one’s own subjective feeling of offendedness. It is, rather, a public charge that the speaker has done something objectively wrong. It is a demand that the speaker apologize or be punished by some authority for committing an offense.

    Read a now prophetic ‘How Trigger Warnings are Hurting Mental Health on Campus-The Atlantic Sept. 2015

  • James

    I’m proud to say I once wrote for this paper. Marvelously stated. I wish I was younger and could personally join you in standing up to these sanctimonious thugs and their enablers.

  • R

    Thank you for putting into words the thoughts that I wish I could say, but what I am too hesitant to voice myself.

  • Greg

    Bravo to your stand! I am proud to be a 5C alum. This is leadership.

  • AHS

    A mature voice of reason final rings out. I hope others find the strength and courage to speak out against such bullies. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

  • Jon

    Thank you for writing this. Continue to stand up for free speech on campuses. Do not back down. Without people who will stand up against this insanity, it’s going to get a whole lot worse before it gets any better. To those who are this upset over a Halloween costume, I don’t know what to say other than I pity you.

  • Roger

    These protesting students are fascist bullies who deserve no respect. As someone who lived through the protests of the late 1960s, I see remarkable parallels in their behavior. These infantile demands are made against pusillanimous, and usually “liberal” administrators who lack the courage to confront the outrages because they fear being painted as racists, and the protesters use this to their advantage. Yet, this is the environment they have created and perpetuated. Faculties, particularly in the humanities and social sciences, are overwhelmingly of the left because, over the past 50 years, they have consciously excluded conservative voices, and moderates hide in their offices to avoid confrontation. This gives students the false assumption that intellectualism is to be equated with leftist thought. For all the talk about diversity, there is little diversity of thought, just the same thought advanced by people of different skin hues. This is the irony, and hollowness, of the contemporary academy. And for this, students, parents, alumni and taxpayers pay upwards of $60,000 a year per student, and the students take on mountains of debt. They are being taken for a financial ride, yet don’t realize it.

    These protests also raise the question of who decides. A handful of bullies who shout the loudest, or the adults charged with maintaining order for all students? Sadly, some students of color have learned that they can abuse their alleged victim status to achieve their misguided political ends. They often fabricate racial incidents to gain media attention, and marginalize those with opposing views. Their claims of victimhood are completely undercut by their bullying behavior.

    The notion of “safe spaces” is absurd on a college campus. No one has a right not to be offended, particularly when the “offense” is nothing more than a difference of opinion (outright hostile acts should, of course, be dealt with firmly). When did such students get the idea that they are hothouse flowers deserving of protection from the normal vicissitudes of life. Part of this may lie in the fact that some/many students come to college unprepared due to the inadequacies of K-12 education, a dynamic that they don’t realize until they are plopped down on a college campus. That lack of preparation, which reflects poorly on today’s public schools, is reflected in the sharp growth of remedial classes at the college level, and the rise of protected academic departments (black studies, etc.) that shield students from normal academic rigors and advance radical victimhood agendas to paper over the students’ academic deficiencies. John McWhorter, a black linguistics professor at UC Berkeley, and author of “Losing the Race,” noted these deficiencies in his own contacts with black students. “Safe zones” will not protect students of any color from their own academic deficiencies.

    Interestingly, the outlandish demands of these protesting students find a remarkable parallel in the views of Progressives generally. Neither has a limiting principle. No matter how much they demand, and receive, they will always come back asking for more. New generations of Progressive politicians will demand new government programs so they can buy new generations of voters, while doing so on the backs of future generations–an unholy alliance of panderers and panderees. And, no matter how many demands of these spoiled brats are met by spineless college administrators, the activists will never be satisfied because theirs is a culture of victimhood that will never be satiated.

    I have a suspicion that outside forces are at work here on multiple campuses because they fear losing the youth vote in 2016, just as they fear losing a percentage of the black vote. Like blacks who have been positively harmed by the Obama administration, including record levels of unemployment among black youth, today’s college students are going to reap the negative effects of overspending, deficits and debt as they age. The Congressional Budget Office estimated in 2005 that the trajectory of entitlement spending would, by 2080, require a 63% marginal tax rate for those in the middle class (now paying at a 25% rate). Think what that means. It means slavery to the government. And that’s only the federal income tax.
    It excludes state income taxes, sales taxes, and local property taxes, to name just a few, which will raise the total burden to 80% or more. And forget taxing the 1%. Their rate will be 90%+ and they will have been tapped out as a means of lowering middle class rates, or paying for free college for everybody.

    The simple fact is, the Democrats, and some Republicans, have saddled the country with a level of debt that is unsustainable and guaranteed to destroy the future of generations to come. They did this because they thought it was more important to buy the votes in the here and now than to consider the negative impact on those yet unborn. This is immoral. Ironically, it is the young people most adversely impacted who handed Obama his largest margin of victory. He shafted you, but you were too naïve to realize it. Not surprisingly, Obama sits silently while this all plays out, whether on the college campus or in crime-ridden black neighborhoods because it advances his community organizer agenda.

    To the protestors: There is no free lunch. No one owes you anything, despite what you may have been told by your “liberal” professors, spineless administrators and “diversity” officers. The sooner you comprehend that you are the masters of your own destiny, the sooner you will find a pathway to economic and personal success. Grow a tougher skin and stop playing the victim. Take a course in common sense. When you enter the real world, no one will give a fig whether you got a A+ in victimology or grievance peddling. Adults don’t want to hear the childish prattling of spoiled brats of any color who think society owes them a living.

    • Joel

      Thank you, that was an excellent contribution

    • Jonathan Burack

      I like very much your first three or four paragraphs. I, too, was a Sixties student who later changed my mind about the infantile nature of much of the protest. I will say that at least we focused our attacks then on policies by our universities over which they had control and did not blame them for every stray comment someone might take offense at. We did not have the psychology now of what one writer calls “vindictive protectiveness.” We welcomed dissent and argument, and all we wanted from the administration was to be left alone.

      I think the stuff about debts deficits, and scheming by Democrats is a bit off point. It’s unlikely any conspiracy is ginning up these out of control totalitarians. In any case, despite what the mood on campuses may be, the behavior of these little authoritarians is going to hurt the progressives in politics who pander to them. It is NOT going to win Democrats votes, no more than 1968 helped Hubert Humphrey or George McGovern.

    • betty

      ROGER Thank you for giving such a comprehensive statement. I hope it gets through to some of those interested in this topic. Hopefully the young people who have expressed fear in expressing themselves against this group of thugs will be emboldened.

    • Stan Rothwell

      Roger: “some/many students come to college unprepared due to the inadequacies of K-12 education, a dynamic that they don’t realize until they are plopped down on a college campus. That lack of preparation, which reflects poorly on today’s public schools, is reflected in the sharp growth of remedial classes at the college level, and the rise of protected academic departments (black studies, etc.) that shield students from normal academic rigors and advance radical victimhood agendas to paper over the students’ academic deficiencies. John McWhorter, a black linguistics professor at UC Berkeley, and author of “Losing the Race,” noted these deficiencies in his own contacts with black students. “Safe zones” will not protect students of any color from their own academic deficiencies.”

      Absolutely spot on, which leads to this question: Regarding the hysteria, paranoia and insecurity of many of these “students of color”, how much of this is due to a genuine belief that there is some sinister force of “institutionalized racism” conspiring to keep them down, vs. a deep-down (but repressed) realization that their “failure to thrive” in an academic environment has nothing really to do with “racism”, but a feeling of angst and dread as they realize that they just might lack the mental horsepower and/or academic preparation to make it through college on their own?

  • Andrew Segal ’84

    I worried that the CMC I respected had been lost – it had become just another elite brainwash. Your editorial reminds us that 2+2 still equals 4 (no matter how loud the opposition) and that character does matter. Your work encourages me to think that maybe, just maybe, the seeds of the movement’s own destruction are starting to germinate. Good luck and thank you for your words.

  • Joel

    Such an EXCEPTIONAL spot on response to the shrill screetch of the thin skinned easily offended, Thank You

  • Bobback Tehrani ’07

    Finally some common sense! Thank you for speaking up, someone needed to do it.

  • Ed Hague

    You’ve offered hope that a modicum of sanity lives in higher education. Thank you.

  • Jonathan Burack

    Writing from Michigan. I say yours is the FIRST campus voice I have seen on all this that cannot be deemed certifiably insane. I applaud your profound courage. What I hope is that you and others will contribute to an active student movement to counter this bullying mentality. You need to adopt Dr. King’s approach, perfect non-violence in the face of what is already verbally abusive and intimidating mob action, and that will likely morph soon into violent behavior. You need to take back your streets, so to speak. A student First Amendment Defense Force. It should recognize that what it is up against is not a progressive, liberation spirit, but a deeply reactionary, proto-fascist authoritarian movement in support of an administrative totalitarianism. I hope you can help foster a turning in this tide.

    Jon Burack

    • CB

      Hi Jonathan,

      This was actually a nonviolent demonstration. While voices were loud and emotions were high, I cannot say, as someone standing in the audience, that anything close to violent or threatening occurred.

      Also, Dr. King was a proponent for protesting and marching, in case you’d forgotten. This was actually pretty in line with what Dr. King would have organized.

      • Jonathan Burack

        I did not say it was violent. I said it was bullying, verbally abusive and intimidating. I said it WILL morph into violence, and it will unless the grownups act swiftly to check it. Grabbing the bullhorn from the Asia student simply because she departed from your script? You do not see how close to the line of violence that already is. The potential for violence is embedded in the contempt for all dissent. Dr. King had deep, profound and abiding disagreements with the black nationalist preachers of racial divisiveness. Claiming his mantle for this childish petulance is despicable. I know, because I marched with him. Proudly.

        • Dr. Necessitor

          You just “pantsed” CB. Lol. I bet marching with Dr. King was a transformative experience. Brave too.

          • Jonathan Burack

            I know. Thanks. They don’t expect some 73 year-old cranky codger to show up, let alone dare to contradict them. I know all about the self-righteous fury of young people who think they are wise past their years but who are in fact wet behind the ears. They’ve all got a lot of growing up to do. Sadly, the so-called grown ups around them on these campuses seem even more of need of that than their charges.

  • Reagan Right

    As someone who was involved for many years in athletics at CMC I have to state my unadulterated support for the editorial writers and for the intelligence of their response. Their dissent is a powerful statement in a sea of thuggery and radicalism that has no place in this amazing institution. The thugs that drove Dean Spellman to resign should be exposed and expelled; and those that berated President Chodosh while carrying disgusting signs and generating an environment of hate and toxicity, an environment they say they need to eliminate, deserve no sympathy but rather disdain and a revised moral compass.

    It’s not racist, it’s honest, it’s not hateful it’s thoughtful and it clearly has more to it than the bullying, yelling, drama laden (hunger strike really??) chaos that the few have created. Let the majority rule and let order govern the lunatics.

    If you don’t like it then leave and take your $60,000 of debts with you so that the moral taxpayer can know their money is being well spent and that you’re not benefiting.

    Radicalism will lose!!!

    • CB

      No, it’s racist 🙂

  • Answers1

    I would not offer a job to any of these adult aged crybabies…including the cowards in the administration hiding under their desks.

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  • As a part-time teacher at UC Irvine, I just want to say that across the country, academia has shamed itself. I am hardly surprised.
    This week parents must be asking themselves whether it is worth it to send their kids to college.

  • Erik P. Brown

    I have worked in the newspaper industry for 16 years, albeit as an accountant. I have never been more proud to be associated with members of the Fourth Estate as I am today – having read your outstanding editorial, ‘We Dissent’. You restored my hope for the future of journalism. Thank you!

    • betty

      It is encouraging to know that there are student journalist who are not brainwashed in the liberal ideology. Today’s media, feeds into this divisiveness that we are experiencing in this country. Hopefully ,the views of the conservatives will reach the printed media. This response to the happenings on campus by the writer of the student newspaper, gives hope.

  • Jennifer

    I agree; I dissent, too.

  • DennisDee

    Wow. Excellent article. Enough of this insanity and faux outrage. Get to class and study

    • CB

      Hmm yes, the pain that people feel from centuries of silencing and oppression is “faux”, makes sense.

  • David A. Burack

    Fantastic. You give us some hope.

  • Latino Pomona Graduate

    Personally, I think it’s ridiculous that she loses her job like this over something that is a *clear* case of unintentionally offensive wording. People involved should be ashamed of themselves and not try to speak for others in such a destructive fashion.

    • Martin Knight

      Sorry … but I’ve read the email and there was nothing anyone not trained in grievance mongering would think was offensive.

  • Steve Horwitz

    You guys are aweseome and brave, and this is perfect. Fight the good fight.

  • John

    Well done. There is an incredible lack of leadership from faculty and admistrators. You guys have a chance to do something great, here . You can rally the silent majority in defense of reason and show the tantrum throwers they’re in the minority.

  • reddove108

    Congratulations and thank you for standing up to the tyranny of the mob.

  • jacob

    *Applause*! What a finely written, principled defence of free expression and integrity in the face of bullying intolerance. Wonderful, thanks so very much. It has created some light on a very dark day.

  • Thomas

    “The hypocrisy of advocating for ‘safe spaces’ while creating an incredibly unsafe space for President Chodosh, former Dean Spellman, the student who was ‘derailing,’ and the news media representatives who were verbally abused unfortunately seemed to soar over many of your heads.”

    Oh, well said. VERY well said! Hypocrisy is what “movements” like this are based on; they just hope if they yell loudly enough, no one will notice. Thank you for calling them out on it!

    • CB

      Hi Thomas,

      As a white person, every space that I’ve ever been in is a “safe space” for me. That being said, the experience of a person of color is one that I can never understand. Imagine a time when you were the minority in a space. And now imagine that every second of your life. This is why safe spaces are important for people of color. The survival instinct is either assimilate or be rejected by the system that we live in. Hope this helps you understand!

      • Martin Knight


        I’m black and I resent your racist presumption that I need your coddling paternalistic condescension in order to function in society.

        Black people don’t need a “safe space” where they are shielded from differing views or people. That’s one of the most racist ideas I’ve ever heard.

  • Daisy (04 alum)

    Thank you. some common sense at last. This is just absolutely ridiculous. I cannot even begin to understand what these kids are thinking. I am Asian and I felt completely safe and welcome at CMC, but maybe that’s because I fit the CMC mold too well. Who knows.. who cares…

    • CB

      Yes, who cares. Great way to think about someone other than yourself. Congrats!

      • Martin Knight

        Still posing like some “Protector of Minorities”, eh?

  • P

    As a graduate of CMC, I agree that the protesting students should be expelled. They are spreading intolerance for free speech, threatening people that do not agree with their point of view, and bullying the administration. To me, they are privileged, intolerant, childish, thugs. When they try to find jobs in the future, they will find that my door is closed to them. On the other hand, I would be happy to interview the students that wrote this article and are standing up for the broader CMC community.

    • CB

      Hi P,

      As an attendee of the demonstration, I can actually attest that no one’s free speech was threatened. The “silenced” girl was not in fact silenced at all. She was allowed to finish saying what she needed to, and even approached afterwards by members of the movement to discuss with her what the movement is more about. She also came out with her own statement later, expressing that, English not being her first language, she had trouble articulating herself. But that she supported the movement, and wanted to see better from the administration. Here is an article regarding her statement:

      Also, the only form of true threatening free speech that I’ve seen in this (aside from the historical silencing of minority voices who are continually told to stop complaining about their own experiences) is a hashtag going around yik yak: #shushPOC. This seems as if it was started by those that are more part of the “CMC mold”, white males. And trust me, the stereotype of CMC being a big frat is very valid.

      • Martin Knight

        She was intimidated, you mean.

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  • Peter Venkman

    Those demanding that Colleges and Universities hire more minority faculty might want to do a little research to see if such persons actually exist. . . there is not a College or University in this nation that does not scour the earth in search of minority and underrepresented groups to hire. They simply are not all that many to hire –why would a freshly minted minority Ph.D. turn down Harvard to come to CMC? Or it they came to CMC, would not leave as soon as a more lucrative opportunity presented itself, which, if they are good, will inevitably happen.

  • Paul U

    Being a CMC grad, my heart shatters over what is going on there: an institution that once prided itself on being the bastion of freedom of speech and thought brought to it’s knees by a group of proto-fascists, race-baiters, and intellectually lazy “victims” who want to be told how to think rather than learn to think for themselves.

    To the Independent, the following words ring true:

    “Never give in –never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.” — Churchill

    • betty

      The alums should protest with your wallets. Give to the student newspaper and deny funds to an administration that does not adhere to having a well run liberal arts education on its campus without this mob disruption.

  • Frank

    What a moving editorial. It was courageous to write. Yes, many adults let these students down. The writers are wise and courageous beyond their years.

  • Professor Elsewhere

    As a professor elsewhere, I applaud your courageous and principle editorial. Not only am I on your side, but all of my students, many themselves non-white, are as well. There are many more of you than there are protesters, and if you stand strong and force your spineless administrators to do so as well, you will win.

  • Owego

    They don’t need “1984” in the curriculum, the students LIVE it.

    The tyranny is epitomised by Big Brother, the Party leader who enjoys an intense cult of personality but who may not even exist. The Party “seeks power entirely for its own sake. It is not interested in the good of others; it is interested solely in power.”[4] The protagonist of the novel, Winston Smith, is a member of the Outer Party, who works for the Ministry of Truth (or Minitrue in Newspeak), which is responsible for propaganda and historical revisionism. His job is to rewrite past newspaper articles, so that the historical record always supports the party line.[5] The instructions that the workers receive specify the corrections as fixing misquotations and never as what they really are, forgeries and falsifications. A large part of the ministry also actively destroys all documents that have been edited and do not contain the revisions, in this way there is no proof that the government is lying. Smith is a diligent and skillful worker but he secretly hates the Party and dreams of rebellion against Big Brother.

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  • cmcstudent

    Questioning the idea of a safe space is valid. I think the linked article does a good job answering that, based on the fact that for a lot of people the whole world is unsafe so it’s nice to have certain spaces where one can compose themselves.

    The tension and frustration that many students have felt just this week is similar to what some students feel all the time in classrooms, on teams, with their ‘friends.’ You talk about remaining silent due to fear, and a lot of students feel the same way all the time. You’ve found a safe space within the Claremont Independent staff. It’s tiring to be fighting all the time, and it’s important to have those spaces where you can just relax for a brief moment, take a breather before coming out to face the world again.

    • Martin Knight

      If you feel “unsafe” because someone disagrees with you, so much so that you would scream at and demand the firing of a woman for an innocuously worded email then you need mental help.

  • JeffintheWest

    My hat is completely off to the brave students who wrote this editorial. While I have no doubt they will be pilloried, have their characters assassinated, and generally be the victims of the very racism and bigotry that the “movement” supposedly decries for having the courage to say this, I must say that they have restored my faith in the youth of this country. Over the past week, I’ve seen example after example of whiny, sweaty, “cry-bullies” protesting anything that would have actually made them think or accept that anyone else is allowed to think, and I was in despair that this is what would someday be running this country. This one editorial has single-handedly restored my hope in the future. For that, I thank you. And, I salute you, for your courage, your honesty, and your intellect. Be well.

  • Halim

    The level of maturity displayed in this article is really amazing, especially against the backdrop of the childish whining we tend to see nowadays.

    Hopefully this is a turning point for the country.


  • CB

    I feel the need to say this. This article is extremely misguided and misses out on some facts, and fails to acknowledge other things of utmost importance. Reading it, I can almost guarantee that the authors were not present, but have only watched out of context video clips. Otherwise they’d understand certain things, like how the girl in question wasn’t silenced, and that the call for the resignation of Dean Spellman was not based solely on an email.

    I do believe that there should be a space for discussion, as we don’t grow without discussion. But, from talking with many friends of color, and many of which are involved in the current movement, that space has been open their entire life and discussion hasn’t been available then. Instead, they have been told that the pain they and their families have gone through and what they’ve experienced are invalid (which is completely illogical – saying that someone’s experience is wrong is just utter nonsense) by people that have no idea what they’ve been through, and won’t ever understand what a person of color experiences.

    Now to address some specifics. First of all, the “silenced” girl was not silenced at all. She was given the opportunity to finish what she had to say, and approached afterwards by several members of the movement to talk to her further about what the movement is about. She even made her own statement afterwards:

    “For everyone who initiated and showed up at the demonstration, I truly admire your hearts and efforts. I have to admit that I failed to articulate myself in the heat of an emotional moment and failed to make the point: I cited the racist incidents I encountered only to say that I came to CMC hoping it would be a BETTER experience. But it was NOT! The implicit biases and the “mold” is more than obvious. My remarks was in no way an effort to drift the topic or to deny everyone else’s feelings. I apologize if anyone there was offended by my remarks. I just wanna say: LOOK PEOPLE BY WHO THEY ARE, nothing else. AAND LESS TALKING, MORE DOING. ADMIN AND THE CMC COMMUNITY, YOU CAN REALLY DO BETTER! That’s all.” I’d encourage you to read the following article regarding her statement:

    She supported the movement. Actually, this article silences her in a way by speaking for her when they didn’t even understand what she was trying to say.

    Second, the call for Dean Spellman’s resignation was not because of a poorly worded email. That may have been the straw that broke the camel’s back, sure. But standing at the demonstration, I heard story after story of how students of color had repeatedly gone to Dean Spellman saying that they don’t feel welcome there, or that they don’t fit in, and not received a response from her. The call for her resignation was because of her history of failing to provide the needs of students of color in a school that is dominated by white, male culture even more than most schools (the stereotype is that it is a big frat, and this is absolutely valid). I felt for her, as I know that she wanted to be able to be helping, but she wasn’t equipped to. If her leadership was failing to provide for the students most vulnerable (which really is her job. White students have no trouble feeling comfortable wherever we are – trust me, I am one), then she is more doing her job by stepping down and removing a presence that is making the already extremely difficult lives of the students of color even harder. I applaud her for that decision, and have faith that she will be better at her next job (which she will find).

    The argument about free speech is also severely misguided. No one was denied free speech in this demonstration. No one has been denied free speech in the demonstrations around the country in solidarity for the black students at Mizzou (have you all ever considered what it would be like to receive direct death threats not because of who you are but because of the color of your skin? How about indirect death threats by leaving your house every single day?). In fact, the closest thing to denying someone of free speech that I’ve seen came from a hashtag on yik yak, saying #shushPOC. Attempting to silence the people of color, if you aren’t familiar with the term “POC”. Now take into consideration. People of color have cried out for centuries for things to change, and have been told to stop complaining. How would you feel if you asked for a basic need, for acknowledgement of your basic humanity, and told that your feelings are invalid?

    But lastly, I just don’t understand how someone can hear a story of someone else’s pain, and tell them they’re wrong. I don’t understand how they can be invalidated just because we, white/rich/privileged people, haven’t experienced the same thing. Of course we haven’t! We are white/rich/privileged! When will capitalism become less important than people’s lives? When will our fear of the status quo (i.e. whites on top of everyone else) stop getting in the way of us giving a damn about someone other than ourselves?

    • Margaret

      “talking with many friends of color, and many of which are involved in the current movement, that space has been open their entire life and discussion hasn’t been available then.”

      WHO CARES????

      College isn’t primal scream therapy. It’s a place to learn to put your childhood boo-boos behind you.

      Blacks in the US have it better than blacks anywhere in the world. Why do blacks keep wanting to come to the US?


      Sorry that, as you well recognize, these black students are so weak, inflexible, and immature that they can’t handle others “not giving a damn about them” and have some kind of narcissistic disorder where they’re constantly demanding this kind and level of attention.

      In my view this is proof the ones who act that way don’t belong in college, but in therapy.

      We as a nation have coddled black feelings for 50 years and gotten nothing out of it but the ruination of once-great cities, high crime rates (that wouldn’t be except for blacks doing the crime), trillions of dollars poured out in social programs.

      All that the return has been for students like these is more black grievance, more black victimization, more black whining, and more black riots, tantrums, and screeching. Blacks of this destructive, hateful, unproductive personality have ruined our cities, while blaming others. What now, they get to ruin higher ed as well, and we have to stand by to prove that we care?

      Guess what. I DON’T CARE ANYMORE. I did, for many years. It was wasted. Blacks like these students demand and demand and demand…and their childish or immature or thuggish behavior is always someone else’s fault.

      I’m done with it all. Many people are. Nobody owes these drama queens a damn thing.

      “What has this society come to where a job, where money, is more important than the livelihood of two students? This comment essentially says that they should die. ”

      You’re damn right. Because when it comes down to my job, to support my family, and caring about a bunch of useless, thuggish, drama queens, I side with my own. If the drama queens CHOOSE to starve themselves, that’s their choice. I really don’t care and I’m not going to be coerced into caring or have my empathy and compassion manipulated in this primitive, brutal, ugly, savage way. Nobody caters to me, and my family has only me to cater to them.

    • Martin Knight

      How many of your stood over her as she was forced to type that “response?”

    • The Beachdancer

      The world judges by what is seen and heard.

      Unfortunately, the demonstrators did not explain what the substantive issues were nor what they wanted.

  • CB


    “We are disappointed that when two students chose to go on a hunger strike until you resigned, you didn’t simply say, “so what?” If they want to starve themselves, that’s fine—you don’t owe them your job.” This is a sickening comment. Absolutely sickening. What has this society come to where a job, where money, is more important than the livelihood of two students? This comment essentially says that they should die. Also, did the author ever consider that the hunger strike was started for deeper reasons? I don’t know what they were, but someone doesn’t just go on a hunger strike because they don’t like someone. Maybe they are tired of Dean Spellman invalidating their own experiences. Maybe they are tired of seeing an administration fail to cater to their people. The job of the Dean of students is to take care of their students, and obviously the best way for this to happen was her stepping down. Kudos to you, Dean Spellman, for doing your job.

    • Martin Knight

      Who misinformed you that everybody’s experience must be “validated?” And who told you that people threatening to harm themselves unless their demands are met have *any* moral authority?

      Idiots reporting “microaggressions” deserve to be dismissed.

      People like you are evil … and the worst pary is that minorities would be the prime victims of your stupidity.

      PS: I have a lot more melanin in my skin than you.

    • keith nightingale 1965

      Have U progressed intellectually beyond pre-school? U actually condone what Toqueville would call the tyranny of the majority? (Student body).

      Step back and think if this has been a rational discourse based on merits or a massive outbreak of PC which only stifles discussion, exchange and how we are supposed to deal with issues. Do you actually think the Prez of the CMC would ignore whatever slights or grievances can factually be determined? The Dean’s resignation wasn’t a free will act-it was an escape from the student body firing squad-which like many of that nature used the commands; Ready-Fire-Aim.

    • Adobed

      There’s a big difference between being uncomfortable and really suffering.

      Until other people know that you are really suffering, they won’t care.

      If you aren’t really suffering, it’s just your discomfort versus other people’s discomfort. That’s how most people will see the situation (i.e. all these posts).

      No one owes you your comfort at the expense of their comfort. Quite the opposite. There are plenty of people who will take their own comfort at the expense of others. That’s life in 2015.

      Being angry does not communicate that you are suffering. There are plenty of people who are angry that they are not more comfortable.

      If you’re not willing to educate people about how much you’re suffering, if that makes you uncomfortable, then the suspicion will be that maybe you’re not suffering that much, compared to everyone else.

      That’s why you need a web site, where people can post short descriptions of when experienced racism, and how that made them feel.

      I’m assuming there would be dozens of such instances for each person in the protest group. And if there were only a few such instances, what would that mean?

      Let the weight of numbers show.

      Less rhetoric, more data.

    • Stan Rothwell

      “What has this society come to where a job, where money, is more important than the livelihood of two students? This comment essentially says that they should die.”

      Not necessarily, CB. See, there is this thing that many of have done to survive, even during our college days. It’s a quaint concept of our male-oriented, patriarchal, society – we call it “work”. You should try it some time…

    • Professor Elsewhere

      Hey, if they get too hungry, you know what? They’ll eat.

      Hunger strikes should be saved for REAL issues. Like, I’m being held in Guantanmo for 9 years and rectally force-fed. THOSE people’s hunger strikes mean something.

      College student pain at being “invisible” or administrators being “insensitive”? Enjoy your juice fast.

  • Libertarians manage to equate the mass murderers in Paris with a minority of noisy college students in America. I am not making up this quote:

    “I’m seeing a very strong similarity between Muslim jihadists and the SJW crowd on college campuses. Both insist on not being offended and are offended by everything. And when they’re offended, they lash out in rage like an undisciplined toddler.”

    • Martin Knight

      You seem to think this is scandalous … why?

    • KHorn

      You found one comment out of over 1400 posted on an article and that represents all Libertarians? Is your reasoning deficit really that large? Oh look, liberals are upset that the Paris attacks are distracting people for the rampant racism in America!

    • Stan Rothwell

      Kizone Kaprow: “Libertarians manage to equate the mass murderers in Paris with a minority of noisy college students in America. I am not making up this quote:”

      You either have some serious reading comprehension problems, or are distorting this for your own benefit.

      The article in question (and similar ones to it) are bringing up 2 distinct points, first in pointing out the histrionic narcissism of having public attention (and sympathy) diverted from their organized tantrum/boo-hoo fest to bona-fide victims of REAL terror, hatred and oppression. Reading the tweets of these self-absorbed rage queens makes it quite clear that they view being subject to “microaggressions” and faked/spurious “KKK sightings” as granting them the same victim status as people being murdered in cold blood on a Saturday night in Paris. The callous, appalling tone shown by these people was almost sociopathic in nature: how DARE 150+ Parisians get shot and blown up and steal the spotlight from us! That behavior pretty much turned the attitude of many of their previously loyal liberal supporters, who at least had some sense of proportion and common sense. It’s also an indication on how these people REALLY view their cause – these demonstrations are less about a serious effort to deal with tangible issues as they are street theatre. Clearly at these BLM demonstrations there are more drama queens per square foot than a drag pageant in a West Hollywood gay bar on a Saturday night (I’m honestly surprised they didn’t start lip-synching to “I Will Survive”…).

      The second point is far more serious, as it points out what is now described as the “cry-bully” phenomena of groups wallowing in their purported victimhood and using it as an excuse to lash out at and attack other groups that are purportedly responsible for all that afflicts them – and the most extreme example of that is indeed manifested in militant Islam. Muslims scream “Death to Israel! Death to America! KIll the Jews!” at the top of their lungs day in and day out, then explode in rage because some European cartoonists draws a picture of Mohammed. They scream about the evils of western civilization then flee their own oppressive countries by the millions, settle in the US and the EU, then demand taxpayer-funded social services and Sharia law at the same time. They mistreat western women and treat them like animals (Muslim males are now responsible for most of the rapes in Sweden) but scream in hysteria if a western man dares approach a Muslim woman. They put suicide vests on their own children and send them to blow up Israeli soldiers AND civilians , but scream “murder” if one of them is killed because Hamas or Hezbollah was using their homes, schools and hospitals as rocket launch pads or weapons storage areas. While nobody is suggesting that anyone involved in these protests is practicing the same level of butchery or thuggery, the socipathic behavior of these protesters, and their clear double-standard on many issues, has people noticing the parallels. Once again, sorry you weren’t able to pick up on what the real story was about.

  • SweetDoug

    Illegitimi non carborundum.

    It is no small task, given the politics of today, that you have stood up for what is right, in this column.

    You have chosen a path that is going to be very difficult, but people of your age, in your position, must take up this task.

    Thanks for being a voice in the fray, not just outside commentators, to stand up to the bullies.

    You will be the ones to defeat this darkness.


  • JimboJones

    Regressive and ignorance runs amuck and the school is the laughing stock of the internet. This is viral now. Way to go protesters.

  • Reagan Right

    CB your comments are of such ignorance, it amazes me. You, like most to the left, sit and judge and ask us to care for the poor oppressed students in question. Your position and support has no bearing on “real life” where it’s typically the best candidate that gets the job not the whining woe is me candidate that you support so vehemently while trying to position yourself as the guardian angel of those minorities. It’s ignorance at best and bordering on delusional. Try living life to the fullest and making something of yourself versus pandering to these aggressive thugs who deserve non of our attention or pity any more. Find a different cause please.

  • AM

    It’s nice to read some common sense for once out of all these retarded students crying over nothing and fucking it up

  • Alex R

    Very well written and totally agree.

    To the CMC studnets: it is not too late to voice out and let the school and everyone know your support for the school and arguing for a rational dialogue and to not give in to MOB behavior. Start showing support to the school and tell Dean Spellman that she should not resign — at least have an orderly transition. Support Kris Brackmann and perhaps she can run again — and be voted in. Voice out your thoughts and beliefs. Numbers do matter… email, letters…. these may be late — but better late than never. Do not allow bullies to dictate the agenda. Grievances have their proper channels and timelines… funding for all the changes have to be raised. Projects should be prioritized based on the greater majority.

    Good luck CMCers.

  • I applaud your stand in support of free speech.

    I’d love to see an article that explores how and where the anti-free speech ideas are coming from and how they become mainstream on campus.

    Do students come from high schools with these ideas? Or is it introduced to them in certain disciplines, like economics and literature? Are certain texts and professors exponents of this way of thinking? Are students getting it outside the classroom? What about the role of student organizations dominated by outside influences that instill these ideas?

    There’s a big story here if you go after it.

  • Devin Risinger

    Brilliant article. Gives one hope. Cheers on the job well done.

  • Adobed

    Suggestion to the “won’t be silent” students:

    Create a website and post a short description of every single instance of racism that you have ever experienced, and a short description of how that made you feel.

    Keep the posts short; it’s not for venting, it’s for education.

    That’s the only way other people are going to get it, except talking to them one at a time. They have no idea (and I can only imagine) what it has been like for you.

    People don’t respond to logic and power. Logic and power gets you the above argument. People don’t respond to passion. Passion gets you passion in return.

    What people do respond to is suffering; not all of them, but most.

    You may be angry because you’ve suffered. But your anger is hiding your suffering. Maybe ethnic pride is an important way to overcome discrimination. But it hides the suffering.

    Just show them the suffering.

    Be strong enough to admit that you’ve suffered, you’ve hurt, you carry the burden, you deal with the disadvantage, the looks, the reactions, the hatred, the threats. Show the hurt, the ache, the sadness, the struggle against despair, the daily effort to overcome the drag.

    “Everyone suffers” they will say, “stop whining”. So, give people an opportunity to compare your suffering to theirs. (And that’s why to keep the posts brief).

    Again, they just don’t have any idea of how much you have suffered. So, show them.

    People can see the outside. Show people the inside. If they want to go on in their ignorance that is their doing.

    We all want to save ourselves. The hard part is turning outward to save others. Think about saving the people in ignorance, saving them from their suffering, and the suffering that they perpetuate.

    They ignore your suffering in large part because they can’t see it.

    Show them your suffering.

    • Hal

      The problem with this is that everyone suffers, so “showing your suffering” will often just lead to “cry me a river,” or “get in line.” Life is difficult. Well, actually not so much if you have the time and inclination to manufacture grievances, creating a platform from which to bully others and shove your alleged “suffering” down their throats.

      • Adobed

        Yes, everyone suffers, however, it’s comparative. I think it’s quite likely that being subject to racism creates a significantly greater burden of suffering. When you say “manufacture grievances”, you’re assuming that’s not true. The key factor is that we don’t know. And until we know, we don’t have a basis for responding, except from our pre-existing prejudices…to which I believe we are all fully entitled. With more information, though, those prejudices might change. And like it or not, it’s the responsibility of those who have the burden to provide the information. They did it marching in Selma, and they had the dog bites to prove it. They should do it now; it’s just a web site.

        • Stan Rothwell

          Adobed: “Yes, everyone suffers, however, it’s comparative. I think it’s quite likely that being subject to racism creates a significantly greater burden of suffering.”

          If being subject to racism racism creates a significantly greater burden of suffering, would it not be true as well ro acknowledge that subject to phony or nonexistent racism racism creates a significantly greater burden of phony or nonexistent suffering? Word up: the “microaggressions” these individuals think they are suffering has NOTHING to with real racism anywhere. This is simply the manifestation of paranoia, hysteria and insecurity of people who are out of their element, don’t really understand what’s going on around them, and have found themselves in an environment where they are academically and/or intellectually over their heads.

  • Echosmom

    Thanks so much to the authors of this editorial for speaking out against the ridiculousness. I’m a “woman of color” who went to college in the 1980s, and somehow I made it through without the protection of any “safe spaces.” Imagine that!
    To the commenter going by “CB,” please stop. People in minority groups can speak for ourselves; you are making us look bad, and making yourself look like an opportunist.

  • Nat Greenwald

    Wonderful defense of free speech, open debate, freedom of belief, and the importance of standing up for Enlightenment principles against an impassioned mob! It is very heartening to see current college students defending our dearest intellectual traditions. What a refreshing breath of fresh air, of articulating clear and obvious truths that have somehow become “impolite” or “offensive” to mention. George Orwell would be proud.

  • BLF

    Bravo on a fabulous dissent! It shows some hope for your generation. Proud to see there are bright and courageous young people at CMC who are willing to stand up to bullies and honor our hard-fought liberties. If only more students around the country could find the strength…. We support all that you stand for! Keep up the good work!!

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  • Carl

    What a great editorial! Score one for academic freedom.

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  • Stan Rothwell

    “We are adults, and we need to be mature enough to take ownership of and responsibility for our feelings, rather than demanding that those around us cater to our individual needs. ”

    Thank you. I can assure you that the type of individuals who need to silence dissenting views in such an oppressive matter do it because they have never developed the critical thinking faculties to formulate a reasoned argument and win others over to their views in the marketplace of ideas. Not only are they harming others with their autocratic behavior, but they are harming themselves even more. They need to realize that the most important form of “diversity” on college campuses has NOTHING to do with skin color or sexual preferences, but with diversity of IDEAS. If they have such difficulty handling different ideas in even the relatively safe, Politically Correct environment of a college campus, they will never survive in the real world away from academia.

  • Andrew Segal ’84

    As I looked over the Claremont Independent’s website, I learned that it is funded through donations and not sponsored by the colleges. Count me in as a contributor and I’d encourage others…

  • Anne Myers

    Fabulous article and very well written! THIS is what we as parents of CMCers expect! Stand up and lead – say it loud and proud and quit being sheep. Hats off to the fine editors and staff of this student paper.

  • Deadman

    The feel sorry for themselves with the biggest,loudest mouths ,The Black Bolsheviks have won the day,fire the staff,send the sudents home and close the school,because,i would never ever send a child to this toilet,i think too highly of a students mind and attempts to better themselves,in anticipation of them venturing out into the world.
    If i were to receive an employment application on my desk or crt screen and was not able to ascertain whether or not that they were part of this gross effort to undermine their school,i would assume they were part of it and discard their application,especially if they were on the football team or they were the well to do student who went on a fast.I would not be able to find any redeeming value in hiring you.You are becoming an adult,you will be facing responsibilities,YOU WILL FAIL.

  • Deadman

    One more comment ,thanks for the picture of your group,i will keep it close and if you happen to walk into my office and see the picture on the credenza behind me,you have my permission to keep your mouth shut,turn around and leave,close the door behind you.
    Your grants and scholarships should be cancelled and you be shown the closet exit from the campus,you’re not good enough to go to CMC.

  • Hardtotakethesepeopleseriously

    Kudos to the trio who wrote the article. They appear to have far more wisdom than the current leadership team running CMC.

    As far as the leadership team and President Chodosh, what a complete $hit Show. They have managed to make CMC the laughingstock of liberal arts colleges at least here in the short term.

    From the Kerry Dunn hoax to the scandal involving falsifying admission statistics now to this complete circus. There seems to be a pattern of consistent problems at CMC.

    I find it quite ironic that the demonstrators who were very likely the beneficiaries of disproportionate preferential treatment both academically and financially in the CMC admissions process now bite the hand that has been so good to them.

    I’m so glad I did not push my college freshman to go to CMC. It is a far cry from the school that Jack Stark ran in the 70s and 80s and the school that Kravis, Roberts and others have given millions to.

    I have to say I’d be a little worried at this point if I was in charge of raising money at the school.

  • jummy

    This is immensely brave considering what they did to the student paper at Wesleyan.

    • jummy

      Ah. Now I see that this is the campus conservative publication. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. But my elation at reading this oped and the bravery and moral clarity I ascribed to it owed mainly to the misgiving that this was the student newspaper.

      It would be nice if some of that bravery and moral clarity could be seen outside of the conservative ghetto.

      • Jonah

        There’s nothing particularly brave or morally clear about using the shenanigans of some overzealous activists to dismiss the legitimacy of a broader concern.

        • Martin Knight

          Of course it’s brave.

          The three authors of this editorial have painted a target on their backs, and given the intolerant and vindictive nature – not to mention penchant for fabrication – of “social justice” advocates, members of faculty and administration included, they run a real risk of some justification being found to expel them.

          • Jonah

            I don’t think that saying something you know people will disagree with is automatically a brave moral stand, and I don’t buy that they are at any serious risk of repercussion given the obvious outpouring of support for them.

          • Martin Knight

            Isn’t it disturbing to you that the major reason they would not face repercussions (yet) is the fact that they have garnered public support outside of CMC?

            The likelihood is very high that once public attention has died down, a rape, vandalism, plagiarism charge would not be far behind – anything to get them in front of a campus disciplinary hearing.

            That’s how the so-called activists on campus roll.

          • Jonah

            We’ll see, but I doubt it. Moreover, I don’t know that most of the support is coming from off campus.

        • jummy

          1) They took pains in the text of the piece specifically not to dismiss the broader concerns of the protesters, indicating that you did not read the piece.

          2) I specifically cited the recent reprecussions against the Wesleyan student newspaper, in which their funding was cut by two thirds for publishing an oped which mildly criticized the #BLM movement, as an example of the hazard involved in speaking up, indicating that you did not read the comment you’re responding to.

    • Liberty for ALL

      So we are now at a point where dissenting voices aren’t permitted to speak?

      I think every one of the hypersensitive students should have the U.S. Constitution as required reading prior to attending ANY college, especially in light of the significant subsidies from the U.S. Taxpayers. And while we’re at it, let’s start including a list of those subsidies as the very first words “discussed” at these campus rallies. The taxpayers are PAYING to allow students to learn, not to tear down the institutions and shut/shout down the conversation.

      College is for LEARNING and new experiences. When the students maintain a 3.5 GPA, they can attend rallies. 🙂

      • Jonah

        And yet here we all are, disagreeing.
        Besides, part of being that age is getting really passionate about causes. I don’t agree with many of the things done in the name of the protests, but youth protests are just inherently messy affairs.

      • Caroline

        Uh-oh, teaching the Constitution might not work; it might prove to be a “trigger” to a student. Project Veritas recently posted an undercover video of a student pretending to be triggered because she was handed a copy of the Constitution on campus. The “student” was filmed at Yale, Oberlin, Cornell, Syracuse and Vassar. At Oberlin, Carol Lasser, a history professor, consoled the “distraught” young woman by agreeing that the Constitution was an oppressive document. At each of the universities the administrator helped the “student” shred or rip up the offending document.

  • Michael Berkowitz

    I have no connection to Claremont; I came to this essay via a link from a WSJ essay. Still, I think we all have skin in this game, and I’d like to compliment you on the clarity of your argument, your exemplary exposition and your courage in writing it.

    From someone who’s probably a bit older than your parents, professors and administrators: You have earned my respect.

  • FreedomFan

    Colleges across the country now are in the grip of collective psychosis. It started with the Obama administration’s expanding the definition of “sexual harrassment” in 2010 to include “any unwanted statement” spoken to a woman on a campus. Democrats quickly used this subjective, insane standard to shut down any statement by anyone who offended them. Congratulations fascists. Welcome to “Hope and Change”.

  • Nora McIntosh

    Scripps ’11 student here. This is such a refreshingly level-headed piece that articulates a valid viewpoint. Why am I only reading this here in the “conservative ghetto” as another commenter put it? It was very brave to post this. Thank you.

  • C Anderson

    Am I the only one who went to college not to be exposed to diverse ideas and ideologies, but to get a marketable education? That’s certainly what my intentions were and what I paid for. I somehow made it through 4 years and no one attempted to indoctrinate me in either direction. The hypocrisy of the intolerance of the tolerance movement is disgusting. It’s too bad that this piece will go unread by those who need to read it.

    • Jonah

      Tolerance in the sense of the movement means tolerance of humans, not ideas. There’s nothing hypocritical about being intolerant of a hateful idea.

      • Stan Rothwell

        Jonah: “Tolerance in the sense of the movement means tolerance of humans, not ideas. There’s nothing hypocritical about being intolerant of a hateful idea.”

        In the eyes of the hard left, ALL ideas they do not agree with are “hateful”. It’s a ludicrous assessment, which is why many of us prefer not to left self-appointed gedankenpolizei like you be the arbiters of what is hateful, and what is not.

        • Jonah

          I leave the name-calling to you. I was merely pointing out that intolerance of humans on the basis of their skin color, gender or sexual orientation is not the same thing as being intolerant of an idea. A KKK member’s intolerance of a black person is not equal to a black person’s intolerance of the KKK member’s racism.

  • Victoria Lierheimer

    Well said! So, there is hope for college students of this era.

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  • Savannah Eccles Johnston

    Thank you for providing a much needed voice of sanity.

  • Christina Hillman

    As a parent of a high school senior applying to college I’ve watched this idiocy unfold over time. My son is one of the only such “dissenters” at his school, unafraid to speak his mind while catching hell from his fellow classmates. Bravo Dissenters. Thank you for making my Sunday morning.

    • MyVeritas

      It’s hypocritical. Students crying for “safe spaces” while leaving other students in the position to feel unsafe for their views. Shame on them. If things were as uncomfortable for them as they claim, I find it difficult to believe they’d want anybody else to feel the same discomfort. Which leads me to believe this is based more on hurting people they perceive in some way as deserving of being made to feel uncomfortable, which by the way, is disgustingly presumptive of them in the first place. “Don’t judge us. But take it as we judge you and keep your mouth shut because we can just tell that you are oppressing us by the only thing we have to go on, which is how you look.” If this isn’t based on bigotry, then I don’t know what is.

      • Jonah

        I wish people would stop confusing safety in the sense of being treated with equal dignity in spite of one’s race or other demographics with the “safety” of not having other people disagree with you. They are talking about the first one. There is nothing hypocritical or “intolerant” in promoting that viewpoint in the face of opposition.
        You think some of the activists take it too far? Sure. Activists tend to be an annoying class of human beings. Activism is a fundamentally annoying task, even when it’s for a good cause. That doesn’t mean there isn’t real discrimination going on, or that there isn’t a need for some form of change.

        • Martin Knight

          No one is confusing anything. It’s either you’ve not been paying attention, or more likely, you’re simply lying.

          These so-called “activists” are demanding “trigger warnings” on academic texts, severe punishments to be meted out to fellow students and faculty for “verbal violence”, the resignations of professors and forcing students in all disciplines to take courses in “race, gender and sexuality” where there is only one point of view.

          Once you read their demands, there is absolutely no way you can say what you just typed up.

          • Jonah

            And again, focusing on what the activists are doing. I don’t think their demands will solve the problems they want it to; I just don’t take that as evidence there isn’t a problem worth thinking seriously about.

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  • Jonah

    If you have any honest interest in furthering the dialogue, address the core complaint: that there is systemic bias, and that the administration has not been proactive enough in managing it. You can agree, disagree or just not know, and none of these positions are racist. Dismissing a common experience of students of color and instead focusing on the things that you dislike about them, on the other hand, is. You can disagree with every aspect of how some of the protestors have handled this situation, and it still doesn’t prove the complaint itself isn’t valid.
    As for the casual dismissal of “safe spaces,” it should be obvious, if nothing else, that students of color do not feels as safe overall, and safety is in fact a prerequisite for learning. You do both their position and yours a disservice by confusing safety and comfort; college should be uncomfortable but still safe, and part of being safe means knowing that you will be treated reasonably fairly based on your actions rather than your (skin tone/gender/etc). The fact that many students lack this sense of security is a thing worth caring about, no matter how much you dislike the protestors. And if you are so inclined as to think that they are whining or it is all in their heads, then level up to your own challenge about confronting uncomfortable ideas and nurse as a potential alternative hypothesis that maybe they are experiencing something that your own privilege (whatever that may be) protects you from.

    • Martin Knight

      From my perspective as a “person of color” – black to be precise – most of what you posted up there is paternalistic self-aggrandizing nonsense. And what is even worse about it is that it is actively harming the very same students “of color” you’re thinking you’re protecting.

      People like you are evil – if not in intention, in deed and in the results of what you advocate.

      • Jonah

        So pointing out that using the tactics of the activists as a way to dismiss any legitimacy to their complaint makes me “paternalistic,” “self-aggrandizing” and “evil”? If there’s any sort of coherent logic to that, I’m all ears.

        • Martin Knight

          There’s hardly any legitimacy to their complaints.

          What I see is straining at gnats by privileged self-righteous young individuals seeking validation of their self-image as heroes “fighting the system” and willing to bully, harass and attack innocent people to get it. You do a child no favors by indulging its tantrums – especially when it demands that it be allowed to hurt others.

          Furthermore, this so-called POC “common experience” is artificial. The caterwauling

          You teach them to seek/impute prejudice i.e. “microaggressions” in every single interaction and encounter. You teach them that the hitherto undetected “microaggressions” are threats to their physical and psychological health. You teach them that all white students are “privileged” and enjoy benefits they are being denied. You tell them that a person of the “wrong color” enjoying food, wearing an outfit, even speaking a language belonging to another culture is “cultural appropriation.”

          You wrap every intercultural and interracial interaction with so many rules and regulations – with such dire consequences for violations, no matter how inadvertent – that you make it for impossible for people to relate as individuals instead of representatives of some sort of tribe.

          And then you come back, furl your lips self-righteously and start admonishing people about black/Hispanic/Asian/etc. students not feeling “safe.”

          PS: Remember Vester Flanagan? That’s who you’re creating with this nonsense. That’s what makes you evil.

          • Jonah

            First off, I’m actually attempting civil discourse here. I’m not calling you names or making a laundry list of assumptions about you,, so a little measure of that in return would be welcome. My position is not what you seem to think it is.
            Second, you at least bother to state what the authors of this article do not, which is that you don’t think their complaints have legitimacy. If they had stated that clearly and made their case for it, I might not agree, but I would say that was at least taking a stand. That would involve some bravery. My point above was quite simply that even a really great, righteous cause can have terrible activists, so talking about what you don’t like in the activists doesn’t address their argument either way.
            As for micro aggressions and subtle racism, they exist. It’s a real thing, with plenty of research behind it to prove it’s real. We all have some bias. In fact, this point has so much empirical support for it that I don’t really take seriously anyone who claims it isn’t real. Your objections seem to be to people who over-apply it or interpret it in every interaction. I’m sure some of the activists fall into that camp. In my experience people who are first starting to think about race and gender issues often go overboard with it for a while, and then settle back into a more nuanced view.
            But as far as I can divine your logic, it’s that because some people over-apply race and gender to explain every interaction, therefore racial and gender bias doesn’t exist. That’s an argument from extremes where both extremes are silly positions.
            Finally, on the safety thing, I’ve learned to go by one simple rule: it’s the job of the school (or company) to create the conditions for safety, but nobody can “make” you feel safe. Safety is everyone’s personal responsibility, but if the school has been getting a lot of complaints about racial bias and hasn’t been responding, they aren’t creating the conditions for people to feel safe and that is genuinely on them. I’m not a fan of safety zones or trigger warnings because I don’t think they work, for several reasons. But I do take seriously the fact that people are saying “I don’t feel safe.” You seem to be blaming me for believing them when they say that.

          • Martin Knight


            Forgive the delay in responding.

            First, the authors of this editorial have made it quite clear where they stand – they are disgusted with the protesters, disgusted at their approach and their demands.

            And given the environment, given the fact that far less directly confrontational responses to radical student protesters in other colleges have resulted in retaliation from both the student government and administrators, they are being very brave.

            Second, do not conflate actual racism and gender bias with the silliness of “microaggressions.” I am black – and I submit that if I need to take a college course or attend some induction or orientation program to teach me how to see something as racist i.e. “microaggressions” , then it isn’t racist.

            These children (and I use that word deliberately) did not just suddenly start to “think about race and gender” and got a bit a exuberant – they were actively trained and indoctrinated by unethical pseudo-academics and administrators peddling a hate-filled psyche-damaging view of the world.

            Somehow, you’ve tried to say that their grievances are legitimate despite the ridiculousness of their demands and what they attribute to making them feel “unsafe” – i.e. microaggressions, the lack of “trigger warnings” and “safe spaces” which basically equates to them being unhappy that there are people on campus who have different views from them and that they want those people silenced. Worse, they want people who do not want to be involved to be forced to support them.

            So while I can certainly imagine a scenario where a legitimate cause could have terrible advocates, you need to consider the possibility that the reason the advocates are terrible may simply be that the cause is terrible and thus most attracts terrible people.

          • Jonah

            If we can agree that there’s still bias along the lines of race and other demographic markers, then huzzah, we agree on the primary point I care about. I don’t care if we call them micro aggressions or not; I have no real investment in the language, just in the fact that the bias itself exists and isn’t always obvious.

            So what I take as being legitimate is that the pain and anger they feel probably isn’t just all in their heads. I’ve heard from other, more restrained heads that there is racism in the community that often goes unaddressed. That I take seriously. Whether the university bears any responsibility for not responding proactively enough is, to me, an open question. It bears investigating, but not assuming. I strongly doubt the university actively intended racism.

  • Hardtotakethesepeopleseriously

    Johah, what is the systemic bias you speak of? The systematic bias I see is that the CMC administration consistently and significantly lowers the standardized test criteria and the financial requirements specifically for domestic POC so that many of these POC “activists” can matriculate to CMC. Without that systematic bias they’re at Rio Hondo CC or the likes. I believe that to be racist if there ever was something racist.

    As far as safety, I’m having a hard time getting my head around someone not feeling safe in the middle of Claremont? At the Colleges no less? Are they afraid someone might mug them? Steal their bike? Spray paint the door of their dorm room? I really doubt it. But If so, I’d offer some solid advice to these kids, “toughen up cupcake, there’s a cold cruel world out there that awaits after you graduate from the privileged confines of CMC”

    • Jonah

      Broad, systemic implicit bias is real. Research has proven it’s existence and social statistics confirm it’s prevalence. I’ll give one simple example: it’s a cross-cultural stereotype that women aren’t as good at math, and in fact women tend to score lower in math and science. However, if you take the name off the tests so the graders don’t know if they are grading a man or woman, the achievement gap on those tests goes down by half. I doubt few if any of those graders are intentionally sexist against women, but they hold the belief and unintentionally replicate it in the way they grade. We all have some of these biases. Research has shown that black people tend to be viewed as less intelligent and more dangerous than white people, other things being equal. But these biases operate mostly in subtle ways, and it’s really hard in any specific instance to prove bias made a difference. It’s more like a cognitive nudge to view one group of people one way and another group a different way.
      So with CMC, you’ve got a lot of students of color who think they aren’t getting a fair shake. It wouldn’t exactly be surprising, after all: it’s a largely white community and in addition to stereotype bias there’s just the fact that a community designed to cater to white students isn’t as likely to be as good at dealing with issues that are more common with students of color.
      But because implicit bias is subtle, it’s not like someone is burning a cross on your lawn if you are a student of color, it’s more that you can tell your professors aren’t giving you as much time or the administrative staff views you as just a little bit more of a hassle than the white person they just helped. And if it were just you, that would be fine, but it’s that you know other non-white kids are having the same problem, and that makes you mad. And then you get an email that seems to imply you don’t fit the “mold” of the school, and suddenly that feels like a really important symbolic example confirming the subtle hostility you’ve been feeling the whole time, and that’s when things explode. And when the school administration, who are well-intentioned but not necessarily savvy enough to get ahead on these issues act like well-intentioned but clueless people typically do, students feel like they have to shout their point to avoid being ignored.
      Enough students of color have the experience of being discriminated against that I don’t think they are imagining it. But I think this particular incident is more of a symbol for the broader problem, which is that the school doesn’t understand issues of culture well enough to head them off from becoming a problem.
      (Sorry for the novel).

      • Hardtotakethesepeopleseriously

        Jonah, what you lay out in your post are hypotheticals. They are just that, hypothetical.

        You say that POC students may feel they’re not getting a fair shake from the Profs? Really? Because I’m a grossly overweight caucasian male who sweats profusely and smells, do you think they may treat me the same way and not give me a fair shake? If so, so be it. I can’t control it. Toughen up and move on. News bulletin: Life’s Unfair. This won’t be the last time they or any of us encounter it. Do the work, bust your ass, get decent grades and move on.

        The tragedy of this entire situation is that the vast majority of these domestic POC students have received a “golden ticket” to even be at CMC. They have received significant SYSTEMATIC preferential treatment (both academically and financially) to be at CMC. Many flat out don’t meet the general academic requirements to be there. Maybe that’s the reason they feel uncomfortable and unsafe. The workload and academic riggor may be just too much.

        If they can’t recognize the opportunity of a lifetime that’s been placed right in front of them, it will be hard to help them in any way.

        PEACE to you

        • Jonah

          The thing is that they aren’t hypothetical. There’s actually plenty of empirical research to show these things exist, from implicit association tests to social impact studies. You may very well have an experience of people acting in an unfair way against you because of your appearance, but it’s a very different thing when that aspect of yourself is an ineradicable aspect not just of your own person, but of your parents and any children you may have. The systemic nature of racial bias doesn’t encourage people to work harder to overcome social stereotypes, because no matter how hard you work confirmation bias kicks in and people who want to view you as lazy/inferior/dumb for being not white will find a reason to confirm that viewpoint. In other words, having a personal experience of people treating you unfairly based on your weight isn’t the same as having an experience of being treated unfairly based on skin color, because skin color provokes a host of social assumptions of moral and intellectual inferiority that require a mountain of evidence to challenge and a molehill of evidence to confirm beyond reason. This is the inherent nature of confirmation bias: we like evidence that supports our worldview and tend to ignore evidence that challenges it, and when our worldview is predicated on black people tending to be on the lower end of the socioeconomic spectrum because of their own inherent lack of either intelligence or ambition rather than years of disparate access to equal housing and employment, our brains will find evidence to support that belief. Because that’s what brains do.
          Bias is our norm. Prejudice is our norm. Research and thoughtful consumption of information teaches us to challenge those presumptions at every turn.

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  • Why is the Asian student to the upper left of video continuously turning her back on the speakers as well as “fawning” her black female companion? More said in what is not said.

  • Alex R

    This says it all. People should start speaking up and pointing out that these CRYBULLIES and MOBs should behave the way educated people are supposed to. Behave with respect and reason.

  • Alex R

    Quote from (last few paragraphs)

    “The truth is that American universities are among the safest and most coddled environments ever devised by man. The idea that one should attend college to be protected from ideas one might find controversial or offensive could only occur to someone who had jettisoned any hope of acquiring an education. Many commentators have been warning about a “higher education bubble.” They have focused mostly on the unsustainable costs of college, but the spectacle of timid moral self-indulgence also deserves a place on the bill of indictment.

    There are some encouraging signs. When a dean at Claremont College resigned on Thursday after being accused of racism because of a carelessly worded email, some brave students at the Claremont Independent published a dissenting editorial in which they berated hypersensitive students for bringing spurious charges of racism and the dean and the president for cowardice in not standing up to the barrage.”

    • Jonah

      It’s trivially easy to dismiss other people’s concerns as unimportant. The flat truth its that people can’t feel safe if they don’t think they are being being treated fairly, and it’s recent evidence is that people of color do not feel they are being treated fairly on campus. It’s so easy to dismiss that if it isn’t your problem, but just maybe we should listen to them and nurse the hypothesis that they are facing a problem that they can see because it is a problem that directly impacts them, and that it might just be hard to see if it isn’t a problem that directly impacts you.

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  • Lucy

    As a student who has attended the Claremont Colleges for over two years, I would like to think I have become realitvely well accustomed to the environment around me. For two years I have kept my mouth shut. Afraid to say anything that might hurt someone’s feelings, choose a word that is offensive or has a politically incorrect connotation. I have heard others around me spew some of the most ridiculous rhetoric I have ever heard. This is the MOST “open minded” close minded place I have ever been to in my life. Some students ideals are so “open minded” in their thought, so politically correct, and so consumed in their own leftist mentality that they can’t even contemplate someone having a different view on the subject. I am wrong for not agreeing with you? Seems a bit contradictory.

    The Claremont Colleges consist of 5 liberal arts Colleges. They are supposed to challenge you in ways you haven’t been challenged before, open up your mind to new ways of thinking, and expose you to different views that you may have never been exposed to. But unfortanuely this has not been my experience and this demonstration is a prefect example of the hypocracy of attending these schools.

    Do I have an issue with students wanting to “get their needs met” at this institution? No. Do I think that screaming, cursing, and shutting out people whose opinions do not align with their own is the proper way to do it? Not even close.

    We came to these schools in order to further our education and give us a better advantage, better skill set to go out and be successful in the real world. Students at this school need to learn to listen and engage in a conversation. Respecting the fact that other people might think and feel differently then you. And just because they do think or feel differently doesn’t make them bad people, or insensitive, or cold hearted. It is not because they are students “of white privilege” who have never understood hardship in their lives. It’s because we are all entilited to have our own opinions and feel differently on each and every topic at this school.

    I’m tired of the bullshit. We should create an environment where we can acknowledge that other people may have different opinions of their own- not create a mass mob cursing at the administration and taking a microphone away from a student whose experiences don’t along with whatever personal agenda you are trying to achieve.

    • Jonah

      The exact mistake that this “dissent” makes is that it uses the ways in which the activism goes to far as a means of dismissing there being any reasonable grounds for complaint in the first place. Just because some representatives of a cause go too far to make their point doesn’t mean they don’t have a point to begin with.
      As for being afraid around political correctness, it’s so much more liberating when we own up to the fact that because none of us is perfect, we’ll all occasionally make a clueless or insensitive comment with regards to race or gender. In 9/10 situations it doesn’t have to be any more complicated than saying, “I apologize” and moving on.

      • Deb

        Or losing your job if your apology is not accepted.

        • Jonah

          Her resignation was a poor choice. Namely, it was a choice to resign out of guilt rather than endure an uncomfortable but necessary conversation. The university is doing two things right: it’s taking the complaint seriously, and it is engaging with the criticism introspectively rather than attacking the people doing the criticizing. What they aren’t doing well is holding a good boundary with the protestors.

  • Doug

    This is brave. I commend you for speaking truth to power.

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  • Ken B

    @ A. Rose, November 14, 2015 at 10:49 am
    “And never once has a veteran put his or her life in danger for me. ” You know, you’re probably right. I guess if you had been then then Flow Grobert would not have rushed the suicide bomber and grabbed him to shield everyone around him from harm – an act for which he was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor.

    Not all service members are heroes in the way that Grobert was (and is) but regardless of the reason they enlist, they understand that the moment may come when they give their life for a greater good and that, in and of itself, is an heroic act. I’d like to think that you can understand that….

  • Bob

    Very, very well said. God bless you and your stand.

  • John Velisek USN (Ret.)

    It appears I was brought up in a country much different than now. I was taught that everyone should be treated with respect, and that that respect was the foundation for all my interactions with others. Based on Christian beliefs, foremost being do no harm to others became a part of everyday life. Along with this was a belief that anything I wanted to do was possible, and that the United States was the land of opportunity where anything was possible. “Rugged individualism” was more than mere words, it was the focus and basis of what opportunities could lie ahead.
    Our country is broken in not only our government but in our everyday interactions with others. We are surrounded with victims, angry atheists and homosexuals who denounce, distort and degrade everything this country has done for the past two hundred years. They wallow in a pig farm of diversity, multiculturalism and victimhood. Assimilation of immigrants is discouraged, even the opportunity for civil discourse is set aside to meet the progressives/socialist standards that this administration, the media, and small groups of loud protesters push upon the people of the country. This push, like other socialist demands upon society will not stop until the diversity they seek allows no communication, and a country of people with nothing in common. To this average American it appears diversity is more inclined to race riots and words games such as “White Privilege”.
    As shown at Yale, University of Missouri and now other colleges and universities across the country perceived “hate speech” and “microaggressions” are of paramount importance to today’s students and faculty. No matter what you say or do, two things are made clear. 1. If you say something that is offensive for any reason to a “victim” you can expect to be denounced and lose any position you may have, particularly if you are white, and 2. Those in the victimhood class can say and do as they like. These would include anyone in a minority class. It must be noted that whites, and especially males can never be victims. Look at how the so called “Knockout” games that has been prevalent has been handled in the media. Older, white men being attacked from behind, woman being accosted at parks, even a 6 year autistic boy killed by black police officers, are never mentioned by the media because they don’t meet the narrative that the media want. That narrative being that White Men are evil. And of course, we can’t expect any word from Obama on this, because it doesn’t give the opportunity to denigrate law enforcement, Christians or whites.
    As was seen and it being seen across this country on college campuses is that the claim of “oppression” is rampant in both academia and students. College students whose main objective should be to get an education so they can move upward in the mobility that this country affords them are too busy being victims and ranting against all who opposes them. The progressive/socialists in academia have created a Frankenstien monster of gentle little snowflakes who wring their hands, get angry, and lash out at everyone else over any perceived slight. And in todays world the sleights are many, mostly unknown to anyone but the victim. It is revealing that many of these such as the hunger striker in Missouri come from wealthy families. It would be interesting to see if they were ever told “No” in their lives, or is this random flailing just a form of attention seeking.
    There was an unverified story on Breitbart on Monday that this gentleman started his hunger strike because state law would not allow Planned Parenthood to operate on campus. Whether true or not, it is coming out that the President of the University of Missouri was attempting to work with those who were angry, but didn’t kowtow to the demands made and didn’t find the perpetrators of incidents that may or may not have happened. But again, they are the victims, we are guilty of white privilege and so we must take what they say at face value.
    The media helps to portray these people as “victims” without ever going to the aspect of what and who they are. Lacking in self awareness, and using social media to become lemmings and follow the crowd to any shiny object that they can use to proclaim their victimhood. Those of the social justice warrior class, are neither warriors nor show any class. It is in their psyche that every desire that they have is justified by those of like mind and can be used to disrupt those who understand that life isn’t always what they want and it is up to them to adapt.
    Perhaps one of the reason for these incidents on college campuses including the football team at U of M is because they have too much time on their hands. Most don’t have to work, and they have everything handed to them by parents and academia. I imagine it would be different if they didn’t have scholarships and had to work taking up all their time to put themselves through school. I know many college graduates who had to work through college, and it taught them the lesson of hard work to get what they want. If the object of all this to subdue those in disagreement, and live under the rules of those that attack, it will end as all despotic regimes do, with a clash of ideas, and perhaps bloodshed.
    I have heard a great deal about rights in the discussion over the past few days. In this country we have more rights than anywhere else of Earth. But people need to understand what those rights are. You have a right to speak your minds, you do not have a right not to be offended because you disagree with something someone is saying. Anytime someone is forced to change their views, superficially at best dismisses the rights of that person, and in the long run, does not give you any more rights than you had before.
    Rights are funny thins. A photographer who had the right at UM to be where he was and to do what he did, was forcibly moved by those claiming their rights were being infringed. Colleges should be areas of heated discussion to be sure, of the free transfer of ideas, but have now turned into places of censure and prohibition to the detriment of the students and the country.

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  • Katie

    I am class of 1989 and I love you guys. You make me proud. You are about free speech. For the record, I still have yet to figure out what microaggression is.

    • Jacob

      Katie, as far as I can tell, a “microaggression” is any phrase, word, syllable, gesture, or facial expression — regardless of context, regardless of intention — which makes someone somewhere assume that the other person is insulting them.

      In other words, it’s basically the same thing fundamentalists do with the Bible…

      • Jonah

        Everyone commits an assumption based on race, gender, sexual orientation or the like once in a while. Sometimes we say something that we don’t even realize is condescending. That’s a micro aggression. Having the capacity to own when we do it (and we all do it from time to time) is a sign of strength. Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.

        • Jacob

          Jonah, I think my view would be this:

          1) If it’s not intentional then it’s not aggression, “micro” or otherwise.

          2) “Condescension” isn’t aggression in any case, and its presence is highly subjective.

          3) I just don’t believe in that holy trinity (and I say that as someone belonging to one or one-and-a-half of the three). I don’t believe that a “straight white male” who comes from a background of poverty, parental strife, childhood belittling, lack of sufficient nurturing, lack of respect, lack of intellectual stimulation, lack of adequate nutrition or exercise, or any number of other things is simply a “privileged” person. It’s nonsense to divide people up so crudely.

          4) An old Tibetan saying goes: you can walk the whole earth on your hands and knees trying to polish every last imperfection in the ground beneath your feet, or … you can make yourself a good pair of shoes.

          Focusing on so-called “microaggressions” is obsessive, disempowering, and ultimately counterproductive. There will never be any end to imperfections in human beings. And even more to the point, everyone can be self-righteous, everyone has blindspots. In fact self-righteousness by definition is not apparent to the person so afflicted.

          Better to focus on one’s own behavior and to cultivate strength. None of the great civil rights leaders of the past went around screaming at people to shut up because they used some innocuous phrase (like “CMC mold”) which that person didn’t like. None of them thought that routinely destroying the livelihoods of people genuinely trying to fulfill their responsibilities, or shouting down anyone with a different means of expressing themselves, was the way to a better world.

          • Jonah

            There’s actually a broader category of terms than “micro aggression” to deal with the point that they aren’t all attempting to be aggressive or insulting, but I was going for brevity (and overusing the terms makes one seem silly and pedantic). And of course there are plenty of disempowered people from “privileged” communities and vice versa. The point is that there are systematic biases against some groups. The systematic point is really the important part: one person making a negative assumption is not the same thing as going through life in a society that consistently tends to make negative assumptions about you and people like you. It forces you to waste a whole lot of time and energy either combatting it, playing up to it or ignoring it. That’s energy not spent doing other things. And when we systematically do that to a group of people, we unfairly burden that entire group. I get it’s not like ending slavery, but it’s still injustice, and that’s worth caring about.
            To me, all that means is paying attention to what I say and being okay when someone points out that I may be making a biased assumption. I don’t have to be calling for anyone’s resignation to hold these values.

          • Jacob

            Jonah, this is actually a response to your response, just below this one (the software evidently cuts people off after one or two replies each, which sucks):

            “To me, all that means is paying attention to what I say and being okay when someone points out that I may be making a biased assumption. I don’t have to be calling for anyone’s resignation to hold these values.”

            Okay, I agree. But I would simply extend this to mean: be courteous to everyone. Some time ago, in a town I was visiting at the time, a store put out a message in chalk on their advertising sidewalk clipboard thing (I don’t know what the term is). It read something like: “Everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about. Be kind *always*.”

            And calling for someone’s resignation is precisely what the students did! That’s a large chunk of what the article above is about.

            “And of course there are plenty of disempowered people from “privileged” communities and vice versa. The point is that there are systematic biases against some groups. The systematic point is really the important part: one person making a negative assumption is not the same thing as going through life in a society that consistently tends to make negative assumptions about you and people like you.”

            Okay, well, your first sentence really is the point, but the rest of your paragraph then fundamentally negates it. I agree that race is still a deep wound in the body of our society. But beyond this, the politics of identity needs to acknowledge what it has let out of the box. When a working-class “straight white man” struggling to make ends meet for himself and his family (and there are millions of these) looks at the rhetoric here, I’m scarcely surprised when he reacts with hostility. All too often he’s being demonized for what he simply is — the very practice supposedly being protested. He looks out at the world and sees plenty of childless and affluent (partly *because* they’re childless) gay men and women having a much better standard of living than they do. And he’s expected to proclaim them “oppressed,” and himself “privileged.” He hears the rhetoric of contemporary feminism and wonders why no one seems to care at all that suicide rates for men are 4-5 times higher than for women — and I mean, what more powerfully revealing gendered statistic could there be than the one which measures absolute despair? He knows that were there to be a divorce his chances of being granted custody are minimal at best. And on and on.

            I’m sorry, I don’t buy this “holy trinity” of oppression — and I say this again as a member of one-and-a-half of them. It think it’s way too rigid, ideological, crude, and divisive. It’s not the way forward. Far better to leave the abstractions behind and focus on quite specific things which need to be changed — for example police abuse of black Americans. And to do so from a place of more expansive empathy. This is how Martin Luther King Jr., Nelson Mandela, Gandhi, the Dalai Lama — but *not* Che Guevara — have gone about it.

            “It forces you to waste a whole lot of time and energy either combatting it, playing up to it or ignoring it.”

            But “ignoring” something requires no energy at all, that’s the point!

            Just ignore it — or else fashion non-manichaean responses which don’t further alienate other people, responses which are smart, creative, playful, funny, free from aggression.

          • Jonah

            There is something odd with the software here.

            There’s a great XKCD on this topic, where a woman and a man go to a board to solve a math problem while someone watches them. When the man screws it up, the observer says, “Huh, you suck at math.” When the woman screws it up, he says, “Huh, women suck at math.” I’m saying nothing more controversial than that this kind of thing still happens, and that on the whole it makes it harder for women to succeed in certain fields, or for black people to get certain jobs, etc.

            I agree sometimes the bias goes the opposite way, but not the whole it tends to be harder for non-white people and women to get ahead and be taken seriously, and we should be on guard against perpetuating that.

  • Adam

    Black people ARE overwhelmingly racist hypocrites and disgusting violent cowards… ZERO exceptions.

    its the the mythical “nice” “non racist” “non stereotypical” “just like anyone else” black racist hypocrites that enjoy and defend the WORST racial hate that exists socially, culturally, politically, criminally and violently.

    Black people are PERPETRATORS.

    and its liberals, feminists and the gay agenda that USE and enable these disgusting people.

    ANYONE that hides behind that veneer of so called “social justice” are ALL bigots, racists and hatemongers who look to bestow upon themselves immunity by hiding behind a pretense of being victims in order to justify the HATE and dictates they look to promote.

    • Jonah

      Congratulations, Claremont Independent. Guys like Adam are the ones backing your point of view. I hope you feel proud.

      • Jacob

        No, Adam is one of about 500 people on here backing the article.

        Isn’t there a guy in the photo above wearing a Che Guevara shirt? …

        Focusing on the lowest-common denominator in any group is what our political discourse has come to, and thanks to the internet there will never be any end of horrible points of view one can focus on and ascribe to “the other side.”

        But shouldn’t we be doing the reverse? … Focusing on all the innumerable people who *are* fair-minded and thoughtful, and ignoring the trolls? Seems to me that’s the only way sanity can ever be restored.

        • Jonah

          I can’t help but agree with you, since that’s a different way of saying my critique of this article: that focusing on the least sympathetic actors is being used as a way of dismissing the issue.
          But there is a more insidious undertone to the article (expressed explicitly by many of the commenters), “I know that we don’t live your lives or see things through your eyes, but we’re still very certain we know better than you that you’ve fallen for some academic/liberal/media scam that your experiences of people treating you poorly are all in your head.” That’s kind of a radical and gross assumption to make, and I think the authors of this piece knew that, which is why they carefully don’t say that in favor of criticizing the protests themselves. To me, Adam is the extreme version of this position. So on one hand I acknowledge that pointing him out is feeding the trolls, and mea culpa. On the other hand, I think he’s the extreme logical conclusion of what a lot of people on here are saying in a more polite, restrained way, and that seems important to point out.

          • Jacob

            Jonah, you are seriously comparing the tone and content of the article above with Adam’s hideous racist rant?

            I actually (heaven knows why, because it was difficult to endure) watched the entire hour-long video of the “meeting” (really a kind of old-fashioned show trial) last night. All I can comment on is what I saw, obviously, not any other past meeting. But here’s what I saw: I saw a few students making points reasonably, and a lot more essentially being bullies (a few in particular I found rather scary in their self-righteousness). I heard a lot of interruption of the administrators, a number of demeaning comments (ironic, given the supposed point of the rally), and no real recognition that the President and Dean, perhaps twice the age of the students or so, had a perspective, had life experience, even worth hearing about.

            Now, I have no doubt that some of the grievances aired are quite valid. I’m also under no illusion that college administrators are even close to perfect! Quite the contrary: having spent a fair amount of time in academic environments, I know that academics as a group are shall we say far from immune to arrogance and the temptations of power dynamics. All the same, the students’ behavior at that meeting was ugly. The dynamics there were those of mob mentality, and I don’t think that in ten years or maybe even a few years most of the students who were there will want to watch that video again.

            Here’s the thing: free expression is at the very core of our country’s history, values, and principles, and within a few years nearly all of those students will find themselves in a world where not only is it very much permissible to politely disagree with them on *core* beliefs, it’s also permissible to do so bluntly, even very “offensively.” They will find themselves in a world where anyone can come up to them and disagree about abortion, same-sex marriage, affirmative action, trans issues, any number of things, and do so even sharply, annoyedly, possibly nastily.

            So here there seems to be terrible terrible hurt over the phrase … “CMC mold.” And what does the Dean have to say about this? She says that students speak to her all the time about feeling like they “don’t fit in,” and the phrase “CMC mold” was simply a reference to that. Obviously I can’t know for sure, but that explanation strikes me as far more likely than that she genuinely believes all students need to conform to one basic personality template, doesn’t it? But no, the students are all-seeing, all-knowing, faultless heroes and saints who don’t have to listen in good faith anymore to the hopelessly corrupt and valueless administrators. It’s a manichaean world for them.

            A big part of the problem here I think was the set-up. The meeting should have been in a room or lecture hall, with the participants sitting in a circle. The students could have taken turns expressing feelings or asking questions, and then giving the President and Dean the opportunity to respond — in good faith and without aggressive interruptions and demands. That might have been productive.

            Instead, we have a guy in a Che Guevara t-shirt barking out “silence is violence” (oh the irony, to begin with, and oh what a terribly dangerous, totalitarian phrase). We have two women actually threatening to starve themselves if a person who used the phrase “CMC mold” doesn’t resign! We have an Asian woman having her bullhorn taken away from her for speaking her *own* truth, that the person who offered *her* help in an instance of race-based insult happened to be “white,” while the insulter happened to be “black” (and note the embarrassed smiles in the crowd as it became clear what she was saying). And we have a college President placing himself bravely in such a hostile situation and *pledging* both a “temporary and permanent space” (many would not have put themselves in that position) — but receiving mostly jeering disrespect. Awful, just awful.

          • jummy

            Jonah clowns himself and keeps on going.

          • jummy

            Instead, we have a guy in a Che Guevara t-shirt barking out “silence is violence” (oh the irony, to begin with, and oh what a terribly dangerous, totalitarian phrase).

            How does it go, that definition of fascism? “That which isn’t forbidden is mandatory”?

          • Jonah

            I don’t actually like most of how the protestors went about things either, I just maintain that focusing on that rather than on the substance of their complaint is a way of trolling the argument. Because I believe in a code of personal politeness I wouldn’t handle any of it the same way; but that sits next to the part of my brain that says that history tends to remember the people who tell activists “be more polite” unkindly. Successful activism pretty much always involves annoying people out of the status quo. So I here your frustration with the protestors, and part of me agrees while part of me doesn’t. I don’t see any obvious resolution to that contradiction (or a need for one).

            I don’t know if the school was responsive enough or not. I think that probably needs more looking into. But if we can agree that some of the students may at least have had some validity to their complaints, then that’s really us agreeing on the major point I’m trying to make.

        • jummy

          Jacob, he knows he is being dishonest. His first words as he entered the thread were, “I would argue that it is a somewhat racist article…”

          The consistent thread throughout his rhetoric is that your assumptions are to be interrogated, while you are not to interrogate his assumptions, lest you stand guilty of “denying” his “experience”.

          Or not quite, as there’s a whole other layer of artifice laid over it. He’s basically conducting a pageant with a strawman and a sockpuppet. He ascribes assumptions to you which he freely interrogates. He then redirects your counter-arguments away from himself and re-frames them as an attack on minorities.

          It’s like wrestling the proverbial pig. Best to just skip it.

          • Jonah

            Actually, he and I appear to be having an honest discussion. Feel free to join.

            When you tell a group of people that you know what it’s like to be them better than they do, that’s almost inevitably a condescending point of view. When the people you are condescending to are people of color, then yes, that is almost unavoidably racist. That doesn’t mean that the authors are racist, or that they have any interest in being biased against people of color. It means that I think the argument is based on a flawed and biased assumption.

  • Chris LaFave

    You are my heroes. Your words are very important. They prove that even stuck in the midst of this mob of crybabies, there are strong people who won’t stand for their bullshit.

    Chris LaFave
    Portland, Oregon

  • CWS

    This is the bravest editorial from a college paper that I’ve ever read. Thank you. I’ve sent it to my daughter who’s in high school and is looking at colleges now.

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  • MS in CA

    “…your behavior reflects poorly on all of us here in Claremont. This is not who we are and this is not how we conduct ourselves, but this is the image of us that has now reached the national stage. ” Exactly. Your school is near the top of my son’s list for colleges. Maybe not so much now that this has happened. Pity.

  • BigBen

    Too little too late. Hindsight is 20/20. All students have equal rights since they pay the same tuition (disregarding source of their tuition), and are therefore entitled to equal representation. The apathetic maybe students who are too focused on getting good grades and letters of recommendation to care about social injustice on campus. They will also include those who really don’t give a rat’s ass about anything. The protestors basically learned that screaming and cursing is the proper way to get their way-basically bad behaviour. Let’s see how far that attitude takes them in the real world where someone is paying their salary. I am not sure the protestors of today can claim the same legitimacy as those in the 60’s-those students promoted a new movement that changed the face of our nation. Big shoes for protestors of today to fill.

  • bwayjunction

    As a person of color, you have my support. Now, if your president would only grow a pair of cojones and stop caving in to those crybullies, you might great these issues resolved.

  • jummy

    I think we all agree that there has been one outstanding contributor to this thread. Over the course of three days, in 20 comments coming in at over 2600 words, “jonah” has given us all an invaluable example of the perils of trying too hard.

    • Jonah

      (Chuckle). If I’m trying too hard, I wonder what that says about the person who tallied my word count? Because in spite of your efforts, even some of the people who strongly disagree with my viewpoint and I have found some things to agree on above.

      • Jacob

        Jonah, yeah I seem to have run out of “reply” possibilities to you due to the software… There’s no excuse for that, it just randomly ends conversations in random places, but oh well.

        I’d just like to recommend one conversation which I personally feel all the students in the protest could benefit from hearing. It’s a different perspective, but it’s blisteringly intelligent, sensitive, balanced, and powerful. It was just posted today (11/19) on bloggingheads. Some software doesn’t allow links, so rather than risk it I’ll just say that it’s the conversation between Glenn Loury and John McWhorter, again posted today. I think it’s a truly exceptional dialogue, personally, and brings out ideas that are almost not even allowed to be spoken anymore. Yet they very much need to be heard. All best.

        • Jonah

          Listened to part of it. It’s an entirely reasonable conversation on the issue.

          I enjoyed this discussion with you as well. Be well.

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  • scripps92

    If they want a class on ethnic, racial, and whatever theory can’t they just wander up to Scripps or Pitzer anymore? There was no shortage of such in my day and that was over 20 years ago.

    Seriously – you used to be able to depend on CMC to uphold the cave-man, heavy partying, get-a-degree-to-make-money side of college life and leave all that hippy, sensitivity stuff to us.

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  • Trevor

    Way to go Claremont Independent! Great to see students have the bravery and intellect to defend what makes Claremont great – a truly safe place for reasonable free speech.

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  • Michael

    Bad ideas can only be addressed with good ideas. Well said. Finally, a rational response.

  • Denise

    The article was worth reading and well written. However, after I finished it, I was appalled at the first comments from the usual adults who see everything in black and white. They used it to support their ‘whining babies in the ivory tower’ Fox News theme. I felt sick to be at all in their company in any positive thoughts about the article.

    Then I read on, and found that reasonable people existed in the comments by Jonah, and then later in his debate with Jacob. Jonah said what I was thinking – albeit better than I could have.

    I am a huge supporter of the first amendment and have been concerned that the thought police on campuses are alive and well as usual. I am also interested in equal justice for all and don’t dismiss ideas of racial inequity out of hand. Why we think we have to choose between supporting free speech or support for racial justice is beyond me. Why we devolve into name calling and seeing things as either/or propositions is also sad.

    I hope that young people realize they don’t have to pick one or the other. I hope they know that they can be uncompromising advocates for free speech as well as supporters of racial justice. I hope they use their college years to learn to put themselves in each others shoes, whatever that entails. And I hope the adults they work with can show them, gently but firmly, when they are off track and using tactics that are not effective or moral.

    They must not cave when they face these moral challenges because so many young people are watching.

    • Jacob

      That’s nice to read Denise. Yes, black-and-white perspective is really poisoning everything. It’s seductive to be in a tribe and to feel one is simply Right and Good. But there’s *always* more to learn… And no dialogue is possible without good will, humility, openness. Thanks for your comment.

  • Denise

    I should clarify that I actually agree with both Jonah AND Jacob!

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  • T1Brit

    Brave and inspiring. If only your Administrators and Professors had the same backbone. Keep it up kids. Truth is non-negotiable.

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  • Embarrassed alumni

    Well said. My husband (also an alumni) and I have been watching from afar with embarrassment and confusion. CMC’s motto of “leaders in the making” is ringing in our ears. Please continue to honor that.

  • Deborah Nagano

    Thank you for having the courage to write this. I would guess that most students agree with you but are afraid to speak lest they be negatively branded.

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  • @Denise who wrote:
    “Why we think we have to choose between supporting free speech or support for racial justice is beyond me.”

    We don’t. Free speech and justice are perfectly compatible.

    I humbly submit, however, that the current crop of students, who have been insulated from the idea that reality is impervious to narrative, are unable to perform such simple rational tasks as defining their terms. What is constitutionally-protected free speech? What is justice?

    Unfortunately the concept of racial justice, as currently employed on campuses across the U.S. has more in common with Animal Farm “some are more equal than others” ethics, than justice. Where institutions are required to privilege speech, writing, and other forms of expression by race, those same speech, writing and other expressions are necessarily constrained.

    Hence the seeming disconnect.

    Or to put it another way, once you imagine rationality and reasoned discourse are a tool of the patriachy, all bets are off.

    • Carson

      Free speech and justice are not compatible. When free speech is an enabler for oppression and racism it is opposed to justice – especially justice for POC. If standing up for justice and equality means ending “free” speech then it is beyond time we do so, it should be obvious that free speech is not free.

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  • The Beachdancer

    Beautifully written, intelligent, clear, on message, brave and admirable.

    The polar opposite of the protesters.

    They rant and whimper in an imitation of Mao’s Cultural Revolution.

    (Written thousands of miles away in a different culture.)

  • Richard Rider

    It’s time for the alumni of American colleges to provide some adult supervision. STOP GIVING THESE LEFT WING PC COLLEGES MONEY!

    Too many people donate to their “alma mater,” based on a hazy recollection of their halcyon college experiences. Whatever you remember — real or sanitized — ain’t what’s happening on almost ALL of today’s campuses — public and private.

    Stop funding these anti-freedom, anti-American, totalitarian-oriented, brainwashing reeducation camps! Target your donations to nonprofit groups that support freedom.

    Perhaps more important, revise your charity donations in your wills and trusts to fund institutions that support the liberties and Western classical liberal values that at one time supposedly were the standard at American colleges and universities.

    I have. I’ve shifted my donations and my charitable remainder trust beneficiaries (a modest trust, to be sure) to the nonprofits defending liberty — Heritage, CATO, REASON, Institute for Justice, etc.

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    Is this satire?

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